CreepersWiener wrote:I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.
If a man claims to have special powers and request people to follow him, it won't take the people long to figure out whether that person has special powers or not. And not many people would follow that man unless he first demonstrates special supernatural powers.
But let's say for argument sakes, that this man that wants men to follow him, in order to entice men to follow him, he offers wealth. He says, "Follow me and I will make you financially wealthier than any mogul. And not only that, follow me and I will get you the prettiest girls to be your concubines, as many as you wish or can handle. And not only that, I will give you fame. People will love you and want to hear you speak, touch your clothes and get your autograph. If a man offers massive money, gorgeous concubines and fame, not many men will be able to resist such an offer. Pretty much every man on earth that is not married would at least follow for a short while to see if what this person offers (money, women & fame) is true.
Even if that man takes away one of the gifts and say, "follow me, I can't get you fame, but I can get you all the money and prettiest women you want. Every man would still follow.
Even if that man takes away two gifts and says, "follow me, I can't get you fame, nor promise women, but I can get you all the money you could ever spend and with your money you could do as you wished". Every man would still follow.
But if that man says," Follow me, and doing so; you will not gain fame. In fact most people will dislike you. you will not gain wealth, in fact I don't even have a place to sleep. I won't grant you women to fulfill your sexual desires And you will take an oath of celibacy &/or monogamy if you are already married. Not many men would follow this man. But if this man further adds, "Also, I promise you persecution". Then no man on the planet would follow this man. Sure maybe a few lunatics would follow, for a day or so, but once they saw no miracles, no supernatural powers over nature, death, health, animals, food, then they would not follow either.
So the only way that disciples followed Jesus during His 3 year ministry, enduring no fame, enduring no wealth, enduring no hot chicks, but celibacy, is that they saw super natural wonders that no man can do. But then this Jesus is crucified. And the disciples scatter. Now nothing on the face of this earth would get men to follow this dead Jesus, when following Jesus resulted in no riches, no women, no fame & promised persecution (physical & verbal).
If Jesus had faked His death (not possible, to many people were eyewitnesses) or the disciples stole His dead body (which it was guarded by Roman soldiers with their life, so not possible), then, when the disciples were being tortured, they would have said, "Look, we aren't getting rich, we have no women, & we are being beaten for this dead dude named Jesus that has no powers? I'm out of here. They would have all sought self preservation. But the disciples endured tortuous death for Jesus. Why? Because they saw something so supernatural, something so beyond human ability, that they had to follow, even though following Jesus meant no money, no women, and persecution, they saw the risen Christ 3 days after His brutal death.
Logically, this deduction is substantial enough evidence of Jesus, that He defied normal human abilities and performed the supernatural wonders to get men to follow Him while He was alive, and follow Him after He died, for He rose from death of crucifixion.