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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby Gilligan on Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:24 pm

Leehar wrote:Thanks for all the Applications everyone. I still want to overtake the TD's record of 11, so keep the Apps rolling in!

At the same time, remember that this is the best opportunity for you to inform us of your benefits, so be sure to take advantage and elucidate as much as possible upon your merits, and the positive impact you can make to both the CD's & the clan world since we can't always read between the lines.


I think I had more than 11 when I was Ent Head.
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby Lindax on Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:06 pm

ViperOverLord wrote:Arya: I totally disagree. Currently, the CDs have granted themselves excessive powers and have often went against the collective wishes of clans. Nor are they especially accountable when they make (adverse) decisions. This being the case, we should be allowed to pick CDs who we think will strive to represent the collective community, instead of our current system that is much more conducive to power brokering. If we pick the CDs then clans can take greater ownership of whatever happens.

As for the duties, that is an easy breakdown that can be stated up front. If everyone is there to do their duties without confrontation, then a meshing of personalities is not especially important. And frankly, what about CDs who clan leaders/members think they can easily deal with? Does that somehow get thrown out the window in favor of a very small group of people supposedly maximizing their comfort levels?


I think you need to take a step back and look at the big picture here Viper.

CC is a commercial website.

CC decided to create an area where clans can meet, have discussions, have clan wars, tournaments, etc. CC obviously needs people to channel all this stuff, i.e., facilitate and moderate. So, CC puts a team of volunteers into place to do exactly that.

There is no other area on CC where members get to give as much input and their say on the way things are done. Now you want to take it a step further and you would like the clans to take over this area by electing the volunteers? Basically you're asking for independence. Would you agree with that if you were CC?

Be happy CC create this area and be even happier that people are willing to dedicate their time and effort to make this area work.

Lx

PS: Did you apply for a CD position? That would give you a chance to "improve" things.

PPS: "Good enough is good enough, whilst perfection is a pain in the ass and often not worth the trouble anyway". That's a quote my wife throws at me regularly. Off topic, I know. It's a reaction to what you said to qwert in another thread. You attack him for trying to be perfect, yet you're the first one to complain when things aren't perfect in your opinion. I don't think he was trying to be perfect, I think he was trying to be practical. Have you ever run, or tried to run, anything of the magnitude of CL5? Do you have any idea how much more work it is to gather results, etc., if you can't rely on game labels?
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby The Voice on Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:12 pm

Lindax wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:Arya: I totally disagree. Currently, the CDs have granted themselves excessive powers and have often went against the collective wishes of clans. Nor are they especially accountable when they make (adverse) decisions. This being the case, we should be allowed to pick CDs who we think will strive to represent the collective community, instead of our current system that is much more conducive to power brokering. If we pick the CDs then clans can take greater ownership of whatever happens.

As for the duties, that is an easy breakdown that can be stated up front. If everyone is there to do their duties without confrontation, then a meshing of personalities is not especially important. And frankly, what about CDs who clan leaders/members think they can easily deal with? Does that somehow get thrown out the window in favor of a very small group of people supposedly maximizing their comfort levels?


I think you need to take a step back and look at the big picture here Viper.

CC is a commercial website.

CC decided to create an area where clans can meet, have discussions, have clan wars, tournaments, etc. CC obviously needs people to channel all this stuff, i.e., facilitate and moderate. So, CC puts a team of volunteers into place to do exactly that.

There is no other area on CC where members get to give as much input and their say on the way things are done. Now you want to take it a step further and you would like the clans to take over this area by electing the volunteers? Basically you're asking for independence. Would you agree with that if you were CC?

Be happy CC create this area and be even happier that people are willing to dedicate their time and effort to make this area work.

Lx

PS: Did you apply for a CD position? That would give you a chance to "improve" things.

PPS: "Good enough is good enough, whilst perfection is a pain in the ass and often not worth the trouble anyway". That's a quote my wife throws at me regularly. Off topic, I know. It's a reaction to what you said to qwert in another thread. You attack him for trying to be perfect, yet you're the first one to complain when things aren't perfect in your opinion. I don't think he was trying to be perfect, I think he was trying to be practical. Have you ever run, or tried to run, anything of the magnitude of CL5? Do you have any idea how much more work it is to gather results, etc., if you can't rely on game labels?


Game. Set. Match. Eloquent reply, Lindax. So Mr. Viper and Ms. VoIet...have either of you put your money where your mouths are? Or are you just big talkers?
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby lokisgal on Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:22 pm

plus 1

If viper and violet want to complain then I think they ought to name names or be more specific. We are talking about people giving up their time to do this - be glad and happy that anyone wants to take time out of their real world lives to take this on
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby Gilligan on Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:41 pm

Lindax wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:Arya: I totally disagree. Currently, the CDs have granted themselves excessive powers and have often went against the collective wishes of clans. Nor are they especially accountable when they make (adverse) decisions. This being the case, we should be allowed to pick CDs who we think will strive to represent the collective community, instead of our current system that is much more conducive to power brokering. If we pick the CDs then clans can take greater ownership of whatever happens.

As for the duties, that is an easy breakdown that can be stated up front. If everyone is there to do their duties without confrontation, then a meshing of personalities is not especially important. And frankly, what about CDs who clan leaders/members think they can easily deal with? Does that somehow get thrown out the window in favor of a very small group of people supposedly maximizing their comfort levels?


I think you need to take a step back and look at the big picture here Viper.

CC is a commercial website.

CC decided to create an area where clans can meet, have discussions, have clan wars, tournaments, etc. CC obviously needs people to channel all this stuff, i.e., facilitate and moderate. So, CC puts a team of volunteers into place to do exactly that.

There is no other area on CC where members get to give as much input and their say on the way things are done. Now you want to take it a step further and you would like the clans to take over this area by electing the volunteers? Basically you're asking for independence. Would you agree with that if you were CC?

Be happy CC create this area and be even happier that people are willing to dedicate their time and effort to make this area work.

Lx

PS: Did you apply for a CD position? That would give you a chance to "improve" things.

PPS: "Good enough is good enough, whilst perfection is a pain in the ass and often not worth the trouble anyway". That's a quote my wife throws at me regularly. Off topic, I know. It's a reaction to what you said to qwert in another thread. You attack him for trying to be perfect, yet you're the first one to complain when things aren't perfect in your opinion. I don't think he was trying to be perfect, I think he was trying to be practical. Have you ever run, or tried to run, anything of the magnitude of CL5? Do you have any idea how much more work it is to gather results, etc., if you can't rely on game labels?


Nicely said.
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby Armandolas on Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:01 pm

Votes will bring more drama. No more of that drama needed i guess.
People should apply and Cd people should gather some opinions outside their bubble.But decision should be theirs.

Lindax wrote:and be even happier that people are willing to dedicate their time and effort to make this area work.

Agree 200%

Lindax wrote:Be happy CC create this area ....

Now thats the part i dont understand.What did CC actually create in the clan world?
In my understanding volunteers and clans created this.Not CC
This gaming site as probably one of the worst clan areas ive ever seen. Im am truly amazed about what people have accomplished here along the years. Only relying on a forum to organize everything its heroic.
So i really do not understand when u say that, but maybe im missing something

I can give u 2 very basic examples but fundamental for someone to consider that CC has its own clan area :
-CC have any kind of clan ranking..on who do u rely?volunteers...amazing and hard work on f400
-CC does not have any kind of tool that allows the creation of League tables or cupbrackets..once again who does that?..volunteers have to find other sites/create their own excel to do that

So CC has NO clan area. It has a forum where some dedicated people organize clan wars and tournaments
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby QuikSilver on Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:50 pm

That's a big discussion here. I won't comment it, but...

I'm against election for a some reasons, CDs know what kind of work are needed do be done. General people maybe don't know what it takes and don't know the real person behind the name and avatar that they will vote for. It will only be a popularity contest, it may be not take the best candidates for the ``job``.

I think they have a made a great job. Not a good benevole job, a good job, period. I don't see what to complain about. Each decision you make cannot satisfied all.

Finally, I can't wait to see who will be taken! :)

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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby greenoaks on Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:49 pm

QuikSilver wrote:Finally, I can't wait to see who will be taken! :)

Peace

i believe chapcrap was the only successful candidate

=D> =D> =D>
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby iAmCaffeine on Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:50 am

The Voice wrote:
Lindax wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:Arya: I totally disagree. Currently, the CDs have granted themselves excessive powers and have often went against the collective wishes of clans. Nor are they especially accountable when they make (adverse) decisions. This being the case, we should be allowed to pick CDs who we think will strive to represent the collective community, instead of our current system that is much more conducive to power brokering. If we pick the CDs then clans can take greater ownership of whatever happens.

As for the duties, that is an easy breakdown that can be stated up front. If everyone is there to do their duties without confrontation, then a meshing of personalities is not especially important. And frankly, what about CDs who clan leaders/members think they can easily deal with? Does that somehow get thrown out the window in favor of a very small group of people supposedly maximizing their comfort levels?


I think you need to take a step back and look at the big picture here Viper.

CC is a commercial website.

CC decided to create an area where clans can meet, have discussions, have clan wars, tournaments, etc. CC obviously needs people to channel all this stuff, i.e., facilitate and moderate. So, CC puts a team of volunteers into place to do exactly that.

There is no other area on CC where members get to give as much input and their say on the way things are done. Now you want to take it a step further and you would like the clans to take over this area by electing the volunteers? Basically you're asking for independence. Would you agree with that if you were CC?

Be happy CC create this area and be even happier that people are willing to dedicate their time and effort to make this area work.

Lx

PS: Did you apply for a CD position? That would give you a chance to "improve" things.

PPS: "Good enough is good enough, whilst perfection is a pain in the ass and often not worth the trouble anyway". That's a quote my wife throws at me regularly. Off topic, I know. It's a reaction to what you said to qwert in another thread. You attack him for trying to be perfect, yet you're the first one to complain when things aren't perfect in your opinion. I don't think he was trying to be perfect, I think he was trying to be practical. Have you ever run, or tried to run, anything of the magnitude of CL5? Do you have any idea how much more work it is to gather results, etc., if you can't rely on game labels?


Game. Set. Match. Eloquent reply, Lindax. So Mr. Viper and Ms. VoIet...have either of you put your money where your mouths are? Or are you just big talkers?


Gilligan wrote:Nicely said.


lokisgal wrote:plus 1

If viper and violet want to complain then I think they ought to name names or be more specific. We are talking about people giving up their time to do this - be glad and happy that anyone wants to take time out of their real world lives to take this on


+1

greenoaks wrote:
QuikSilver wrote:Finally, I can't wait to see who will be taken! :)

Peace

i believe chapcrap was the only successful candidate

=D> =D> =D>


If true, I'm not surprised.
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby Leehar on Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:33 pm

Gilligan wrote:
Leehar wrote:Thanks for all the Applications everyone. I still want to overtake the TD's record of 11, so keep the Apps rolling in!

At the same time, remember that this is the best opportunity for you to inform us of your benefits, so be sure to take advantage and elucidate as much as possible upon your merits, and the positive impact you can make to both the CD's & the clan world since we can't always read between the lines.


I think I had more than 11 when I was Ent Head.

I remember 3 applied for one of the graphics positions :lol:


Anyway, applications close tomorrow, we're approaching the 20 mark, so we should have a decent pool of candidates before hopefully drawing a shortlist heading into an interview stage to gain a further understanding of the applicants, as well as perhaps give some a chance to redeem themselves from our initial assessment ;).
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby Keefie on Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:53 am

greenoaks wrote:
QuikSilver wrote:Finally, I can't wait to see who will be taken! :)

Peace

i believe chapcrap was the only successful candidate

=D> =D> =D>


I smell BS around here and Kort are nowhere to be seen ;)
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby greenoaks on Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:59 am

Keefie wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
QuikSilver wrote:Finally, I can't wait to see who will be taken! :)

Peace

i believe chapcrap was the only successful candidate

=D> =D> =D>


I smell BS around here and Kort are nowhere to be seen ;)

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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby Gilligan on Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:24 am

greenoaks wrote:
Keefie wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
QuikSilver wrote:Finally, I can't wait to see who will be taken! :)

Peace

i believe chapcrap was the only successful candidate

=D> =D> =D>


I smell BS around here and Kort are nowhere to be seen ;)

if you visit Off-Topics you'd smell BBS


if you visit clan archives you'd smell BSS
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Re: TeamCC Callout: Clan Director Position(s)

Postby ViperOverLord on Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:10 pm

Lindax wrote:I think you need to take a step back and look at the big picture here Viper.

CC is a commercial website.

CC decided to create an area where clans can meet, have discussions, have clan wars, tournaments, etc. CC obviously needs people to channel all this stuff, i.e., facilitate and moderate. So, CC puts a team of volunteers into place to do exactly that.


An election system changes none of that.

Lindax wrote:There is no other area on CC where members get to give as much input and their say on the way things are done. Now you want to take it a step further and you would like the clans to take over this area by electing the volunteers? Basically you're asking for independence. Would you agree with that if you were CC?


Admin has and always will have any final say upon who represents them. Whether they are initially selected by CDs or the community is not relevant to that reality. And I would agree with it if I were CC because the community would be fully involved and it would lessen the inevitable squabbles that are the result of our insider oriented system now.

BTW, Lindax, this is not a new concept to you. You won a TD spot based upon the votes of TO's group. So, I'm a bit surprised that you'd act like this concept is so novel.

Lindax wrote:Be happy CC create this area and be even happier that people are willing to dedicate their time and effort to make this area work.


How does wanting an election system say that I am not "happy" with any positive efforts that anyone does?

Lindax wrote:PS: Did you apply for a CD position? That would give you a chance to "improve" things.


I did not. Given that I've been among the most vocal critics of CD politics, that would seem like an exercise in futility. I did post the opening in my clan forum and there was some discussion there. One clan member has said he would like to apply. I don't know if he'll apply in time or not. I haven't pressed it since I've read about an abundance of applicants.

Lindax wrote:PPS: "Good enough is good enough, whilst perfection is a pain in the ass and often not worth the trouble anyway". That's a quote my wife throws at me regularly. Off topic, I know. It's a reaction to what you said to qwert in another thread. You attack him for trying to be perfect, yet you're the first one to complain when things aren't perfect in your opinion. I don't think he was trying to be perfect, I think he was trying to be practical. Have you ever run, or tried to run, anything of the magnitude of CL5? Do you have any idea how much more work it is to gather results, etc., if you can't rely on game labels?


Not sure what relevance this has to the concept of elections. I've not made any arguments here based upon trivial snipes. My argument is based upon the fact that elections find the best CDs to represent ALL clans. If a CD performs up to their standards then they'll likely continue in that capacity if they desire. But, currently if a CD acts not in the interest of the majority of the clans or even a significant minority; then there is no recourse for the disenchanted (often disenfranchised) clans. That needs to change. If we pick our CDs, we all own it. Enough of this insider politics nonsense.

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Now, I haven't replied to every other response. But, I'm not surprised to see the same tiresome taunts coming from some members who are the greatest beneficiaries of our insider politics system.
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Fog of War Achievement (4) Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Speed Achievement (4) Teammate Achievement (2) Random Map Achievement (3)
Cross-Map Achievement (4) Beta Map Achievement (1) Battle Royale Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (3) Tournament Achievement (30)
General Achievement (6) Clan Achievement (10) Tournament Contribution (31)

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