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Jippd wrote:I don't mean confusing for the admin team I mean confusing for people that may want to participate in the monthly challenge or find out more about what it is all about.
For example, if someone has a question in March about the monthly tournament they may not know where to start searching to see if there question has already been answered. If there is a thread for each monthly challenge there is a more finite number of pages that they would need to check in on and see what people are talking about regarding the specific challenge.
Another advantage to a separate thread is for people that are creating games or looking for people to join games towards the challenge. Again a finite number of pages with one thread per monthly challenge will make it easier for people to be able to use that to the best of their ability.
It also might get more attention since a new announcement goes towards the top of the list. As the time goes on the thread topic will slowly move down the list in the announcement forum as new announcements go above it.
DoomYoshi wrote:Both of these concerns are addressed in the posts following the OP. There is a FAQ post, and a Past Challenges post.
denominator wrote:There is going to be a problem in that this thread will gradually fall further down the announcements forum as new threads are posted.
sempaispellcheck wrote:denominator wrote:There is going to be a problem in that this thread will gradually fall further down the announcements forum as new threads are posted.
It will be headlined and moved back to the top of the forum every time a new challenge is posted.
sempai
Jippd wrote:sempaispellcheck wrote:denominator wrote:There is going to be a problem in that this thread will gradually fall further down the announcements forum as new threads are posted.
It will be headlined and moved back to the top of the forum every time a new challenge is posted.
sempai
Except for this time?
Is there an advantage to keeping everything in one thread that I am missing? Just curious.
Also there is still the issue of people not knowing where discussion pertaining to a certain months challenge starts and stops when the thread will keep growing in posts. Look how many pages you have and it has only been through 1 month.
If I come into the forums and find this thread in the middle of March and want to see where all of the discussion for the March challenge started I feel it would be more convenient to go to the second post and start reading discussion about that challenge then try to guess through the pages where it starts by checking dates of posts.
Leehar wrote:Why are quads scored less than (4p) dubs, but more than (6p) trips?
DoomYoshi wrote:I don't like the idea of new threads as it makes it impossible to find stuff. I don't want to have to go searching through a hundred threads to find details of one challenge. The only solution would then be to copy and paste the details of the past challenges every time. Which would result in more work than now for little reward.
As for jippd's main complaint. I prefer if all the discussion is in the same thread. In the OP, I can add a link for where the discussion on one particular challenge starts. That will avoid players having to search the last 5 or so pages to get to the start.
I would prefer if players just used the search function though. If somebody asks a protocol question about getting the medal during the January challenge, it is probably equally applicable for the August challenge.
The F400 is one of the longest-lasting institutions on this website, and it uses the same thread, with a periodic update once it becomes too sprawl-y. I imagine this will use the same method.
Dukasaur wrote:DoomYoshi wrote:I don't like the idea of new threads as it makes it impossible to find stuff. I don't want to have to go searching through a hundred threads to find details of one challenge. The only solution would then be to copy and paste the details of the past challenges every time. Which would result in more work than now for little reward.
As for jippd's main complaint. I prefer if all the discussion is in the same thread. In the OP, I can add a link for where the discussion on one particular challenge starts. That will avoid players having to search the last 5 or so pages to get to the start.
I would prefer if players just used the search function though. If somebody asks a protocol question about getting the medal during the January challenge, it is probably equally applicable for the August challenge.
The F400 is one of the longest-lasting institutions on this website, and it uses the same thread, with a periodic update once it becomes too sprawl-y. I imagine this will use the same method.
This works. Especially the highlighted part.
Sirius Kase wrote:Since I'd never heard of the F400, i stuck it in the search box and found something I would hope you would never try to emulate. Since the messages the search linked to didn't make any sense, I went to the OP, post 1. It had a place for the Faq and the Policy and Procedure to hide, but they weren't hiding, they weren't there at all. The OP didn't have a word about the purpose of the thread or the competition if that is what it was, just a bunch of fancy charts, no explanations. You would have to already know what it was about to know what it was about. This is probably fine for some things, but not for something you want new people to join up with.
I've hesitated to comment since I don't agree with the idea of having a long convoluted thread where new stuff is cut and pasted ahead of old stuff. But, you have your reasons which I respect. It is a big job hosting something like this and the convenience of the host is very important, if you can't manage more than one thread, then I'll adapt, not that hard to click on the 1, now that I know you plan to update it. I ordinarily start at the end of long threads since OP is usually not up to date and in many cases very obsolete. And when people do go back and edit old posts, I don't know it, it doesn't seem to trigger the email notification like a completely new post does. So, I'll probably be reading along the new posts until someone mentions, oh btw, the OP has been edited. But, usually, for me, I prefer short threads covering single topic to long threads covering lots of things.
Just my opinion. I wasn't going to comment at all until I got curious and went to the F400 thread. I'm adaptable, but if you have a choice, don't make me adapt to something as badly organized as the F400 thread.
Dukasaur wrote:I think you guys should give Doom the benefit of the doubt and see how it goes for a few months. If after four or five months it looks like a mess and stuff is hard to find, then start agitating for separate threads. In the meantime, he's obviously thought about how to organise it, he's going to archive old challenges in Post 3 (which answered my main objection); he's going to post links in Post 1 to the start dates of new challenges (which answered the main objection raised by Jippd), and we should just stand back maybe and see how he proceeds.
This is the guy who created the concept, and pushed it through, from non-existence to experimental prototype to fully-sanctioned version, and at some point you have to back off and let the conductor conduct.
DoomYoshi wrote:I don't like the idea of new threads as it makes it impossible to find stuff. I don't want to have to go searching through a hundred threads to find details of one challenge. The only solution would then be to copy and paste the details of the past challenges every time. Which would result in more work than now for little reward.
DoomYoshi wrote:As for jippd's main complaint. I prefer if all the discussion is in the same thread. In the OP, I can add a link for where the discussion on one particular challenge starts. That will avoid players having to search the last 5 or so pages to get to the start.
DoomYoshi wrote:I would prefer if players just used the search function though. If somebody asks a protocol question about getting the medal during the January challenge, it is probably equally applicable for the August challenge.
DoomYoshi wrote:The F400 is one of the longest-lasting institutions on this website, and it uses the same thread, with a periodic update once it becomes too sprawl-y. I imagine this will use the same method.
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