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BigBallinStalin wrote:Let's be consistent: it's a thug life in Ukraine.
Baron Von PWN wrote:It seems Donetsk has jumped on the whole let's f*ck with Ukraine in a totally non suspicious manner band wagon.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26919928
Baron Von PWN wrote:Things certainly seem to be heating up. Some Ukrainian police sent to retake the city suffered casualties (1 killed 5 injured) with an unknown number of pro-Russian guys wounded.
notyou2 wrote:Who are these "pro Russians guys"? They are very well equipped and seem to have matching uniforms, the same weapons, and the list goes on.
Lets call a spade a spade, they are not Pro Russians, they are Russian pros. They are Russians that either live in the Ukraine and have been equipped by Russia, or they are Russian troops that have infiltrated the country. I strongly doubt they are average citizens as they obviously have military training. I believe the majority are active Russian soldiers that have infiltrated the country on the orders of Vlad "the invader" Putin.
kuthoer wrote:No doubt that the Russian government is behind this.
Time to arm Ukraine so at least they can at least defend themselves from further aggression.
AndyDufresne wrote:It'll be interesting when the Soviet Union breaks up again in like 60 years.
--Andy
notyou2 wrote:Baron Von PWN wrote:Things certainly seem to be heating up. Some Ukrainian police sent to retake the city suffered casualties (1 killed 5 injured) with an unknown number of pro-Russian guys wounded.
Who are these "pro Russians guys"? They are very well equipped and seem to have matching uniforms, the same weapons, and the list goes on.
Lets call a spade a spade, they are not Pro Russians, they are Russian pros. They are Russians that either live in the Ukraine and have been equipped by Russia, or they are Russian troops that have infiltrated the country. I strongly doubt they are average citizens as they obviously have military training. I believe the majority are active Russian soldiers that have infiltrated the country on the orders of Vlad "the invader" Putin.
Baron Von PWN wrote:As we have seen from Krimea the Ukrianian military isn't exactly united in defiantly resisting the Russians. Some units had more than half their men decide to stay in Crimea and swear for the Russians. Is it so unbeleivable that Russians who are Ukrainian nationals might defect?
GoranZ wrote:Baron Von PWN wrote:As we have seen from Krimea the Ukrianian military isn't exactly united in defiantly resisting the Russians. Some units had more than half their men decide to stay in Crimea and swear for the Russians. Is it so unbeleivable that Russians who are Ukrainian nationals might defect?
Why do you think that only Ukrainian military isn't exactly united in defiantly resisting the Russians? You would be stunned how big the percentage of ethnic Ukrainians will also chose to not fight the Russians, even around 2/3 of ethnic Ukrainians in Crimea voted for merger with Russia
kuthoer wrote:GoranZ wrote:Baron Von PWN wrote:As we have seen from Krimea the Ukrianian military isn't exactly united in defiantly resisting the Russians. Some units had more than half their men decide to stay in Crimea and swear for the Russians. Is it so unbeleivable that Russians who are Ukrainian nationals might defect?
Why do you think that only Ukrainian military isn't exactly united in defiantly resisting the Russians? You would be stunned how big the percentage of ethnic Ukrainians will also chose to not fight the Russians, even around 2/3 of ethnic Ukrainians in Crimea voted for merger with Russia
2/3 of ethnic Ukrainians voted for merger with Russia? Where did you come up with those ridiculous figures? Russian TV ?
GoranZ wrote:AndyDufresne wrote:It'll be interesting when the Soviet Union breaks up again in like 60 years.
--Andy
I dont think that you will live to see that fulfilling On the other hand you will witness the expansion of Russia(and probably China)
mrswdk wrote:GoranZ wrote:AndyDufresne wrote:It'll be interesting when the Soviet Union breaks up again in like 60 years.
--Andy
I dont think that you will live to see that fulfilling On the other hand you will witness the expansion of Russia(and probably China)
China has never been an expansionist state. There is no reason to believe that a resurgent China will suddenly adopt the behavior of decaying imperial empires such as Russia or the USA.
Ukraine’s Interior Ministry has called on former Berkut special forces troops to rejoin the Ukrainian military.
muy_thaiguy wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/ukraines-pro-russia-militia-look-suspiciously-veteran-russian-170728485.html
The Times also points out that the Ukrainian separatists use the same helmets as Russian troops
and that the armed men in Crimea and east Ukraine dress in basically the same way.
Intelligence whistleblower Edward Snowden has been installed as rector at Glasgow University.
The 30-year-old is currently staying in Russia, where he has temporary asylum.
Among the rector's key duties are to attend the university court, work with the students' representative council, and to bring student concerns to the attention of university management.
Mr Snowden beat three other candidates to the post - cyclist Graeme Obree, author Alan Bissett and Scottish Episcopal clergyman Kelvin Holdsworth.
He received 3,124 votes in the first round and 3,347 in the second, comfortably beating Mr Holdsworth, who received 1,563 votes.
Mr Snowden succeeds the former Liberal Democrat leader Charles Kennedy.
Previous rectors at Glasgow University include Winnie Mandela and Mordechai Vanunu.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-gla ... t-27127128
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