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Postby oaktown on Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:39 pm

Gilligan wrote:The link to the Ice map on the first post seems to be broken...

yep, so it was... thanks. I'd been updating my other map and must have just wiped it out.

Here are both, with and without:
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Postby edbeard on Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:42 pm

the 'with' version is far superior.

the 'without' version looks like something is missing.
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Postby Bartoli on Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:48 pm

i like the ice cap, has something sweet, and make the map more complete. 8)

without looks a bit dry, but also nice though...
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Postby yeti_c on Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:04 am

edbeard wrote:the 'with' version is far superior.

the 'without' version looks like something is missing.
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Postby Elijah S on Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:45 am

oaktown wrote:
Elijah S wrote:the polar caps having melted would diminish the land area considerably... basically causing oaktown to have to redraft the entire map!

I could be wrong, but if the all of the ice at the north pole were to melt, it wouldn't raise the sea level... floating ice displaces the same amount of water as is contained in that ice.

But I liked the point about the map not being immediately identifiable as polar view without the ice... I'm leaning toward putting it back in, but you all can keep discussing.


The icecaps melting would most definitely raise sea level... but I was just joking anyway.
I do prefer the version with the icecap though.
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Postby Incandenza on Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:05 am

edbeard wrote:the 'with' version is far superior.

the 'without' version looks like something is missing.
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Postby oaktown on Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:47 am

The icecaps melting would most definitely raise sea level... but I was just joking anyway.
I do prefer the version with the icecap though.

Sounds like we're going with the ice cap.

And the science teacher in me has to respond to the ice cap confusion. In the arctic we have an ice cap, which is a mass of ice covering water/a small land area... if the entire polar ice cap were to melt there would be no change to our sea level, because floating ice already displaces a volume of water equal to its weight. Water expands when it freezes. The polar ice cap grows and retreats each year, yet we experience no seasonal rise in sea level. Llikewise, the polar ice cap was at one point 41% lower this year than historical levels, yet my seaside town of Santa Barbara still has the same beach it had 40 years ago.

The story is differnt elsewhere in the world, however. Most of the Antarctic ice sheet (it's not an ice pack) is on land - if that all melted and ran into the sea I would find myself retreating to the hills fast! Ditto Greenland, melting glaciers, etc.

So yeah, we should all be driving Priuses. :wink:
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Postby demon7896 on Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:47 pm

edbeard wrote:the 'with' version is far superior.

the 'without' version looks like something is missing.

yeah, when you look at the map, there is a big blank hole where the ice cap used to be.
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Postby Jesse710 on Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:59 am

oaktown wrote:Sounds like we're going with the ice cap.

YAY! :D
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Postby oaktown on Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:26 am

If anybody is interested...
xml: http://h1.ripway.com/rparodi/duck.xml
large map: http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r76/ ... over24.jpg
small map: http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r76/ ... ver24S.jpg

ran the attack route tester and found two errors. Here's the updated XML.

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Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:56 pm

              Quenching


The Final Forge period has concluded for the Duck and Cover Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for live play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!


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Postby yeti_c on Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:57 pm

SWEET - Congrats Oaky..

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Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:57 pm

And for reference:

Should the polar ice cap be included in the final image?
Yes - we should cherish the days when we actually had an ice cap!
77% [ 31 ]
No - I'm using the ice to keep my polar bear steaks fresh.
17% [ 7 ]
Who care, I'll never play this map anyway.
5% [ 2 ]

Total Votes : 40


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Postby RjBeals on Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:01 pm

Yeah Oaktown! This map will be very popular - congrats on another fine addition!
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Postby Gilligan on Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:07 pm

Congrats! =D>
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