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Postby cairnswk on Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:43 am

PROHIBITION CHICAGO
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Current Version 18

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Original Map
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Links - This map was created taking ideas from:
organised Crime in Chicago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organized_crime_in_Chicago
and Map of Gangland's Chicago 1931 http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory. ... 11538.html

Starting No of Territoires
* Canadian Specials - 3
* Northside Gang - 7
* Chicago Mafia - 7
* Prohibition Gangsters - 8
* Racketteers - 3
* Chicago Outfit - 20
* Utilities - 8
Total - 56

This may decrease as development continues, but it will not increase.

Concept
Based on street fighting in the 1920 & 1930s, several outfits vie for control of the Chicago Streets.
There is a large sway towards the Chicago Outfit as present, but that pay change as gameplay is discussed and developed. No doubt several people will have ideas on this one.

Enjoy!
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Postby edbeard on Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:06 am

Do you need to hold all of that colour to get the bonus or just the gangsters? If it's all of the the colour then ..

what are your thoughts on majority control bonuses here? at least on some of the larger areas I mean. I say this only because it looks like quite a few of these bonuses will only be held towards the end of the game. Maybe it's a bad idea. I don't know.


If it's only the gangsters then a lot of these other territories you have a useless.


It's probably the whole colour because what is the reason for the colours on these other territories! Anyway, that's all I have for now. Let me know about this question then I'll come back with more feedback.
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Postby cairnswk on Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:25 am

edbeard wrote:Do you need to hold all of that colour to get the bonus or just the gangsters? If it's all of the the colour then ..

what are your thoughts on majority control bonuses here? at least on some of the larger areas I mean. I say this only because it looks like quite a few of these bonuses will only be held towards the end of the game. Maybe it's a bad idea. I don't know.


If it's only the gangsters then a lot of these other territories you have a useless.


It's probably the whole colour because what is the reason for the colours on these other territories! Anyway, that's all I have for now. Let me know about this question then I'll come back with more feedback.


Yes edbeard...i am quite open to majority control bonuses, if that will create better gameplay.
Let me know more of your thoughts on this subject.
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Postby a-person1192 on Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:43 am

maybe a good map to play
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Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:42 am

This map feels a little too bright, colorful, and pleasantly sugared to be about gangs in the 1920's.


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Postby cairnswk on Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:02 am

AndyDufresne wrote:This map feels a little too bright, colorful, and pleasantly sugared to be about gangs in the 1920's.


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Thanks Andy...i'll change it to Sin City colours LOL....early days yet! :wink:
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Postby Unit_2 on Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:24 am

No thanks... I'd rather like to see a map of Philadelphia.
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Postby RjBeals on Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:26 am

Not sure the planes fit too well. Do you get a bonus to hold the 3 planes? Can you cross the river? The connection lines are very hard to follow along the streets. Whats that strange pattern and target towards the bottom left (tax dept)? Kinda neat. I like the giggle juice trucks & gun graphics. I like how the the gangsters names make up the territories. Nice start Cairns. I'm sure you'll adjust colors as the map progresses.
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Postby Coleman on Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:33 am

This rocks my socks.

Question...

"Mobsters can attack each other at any time"

That seems awkward, shouldn't it be bombard? It doesn't seem right that attacking each other leads to a take over.

I like the assist terminology better. Maybe mobsters of the same gang could assist each other too, but rival mobsters bombard.

You'd need to change the layout if you did this, as I get that right now mobsters attacking each other is a big way to move around the map and some places aren't connected if you change it.
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Postby Herakilla on Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:31 pm

why planes? majority of booze came on boats. the ships would land at canada, buy the beer and stuff, then leave with their official destination in Cuba lol. they were the fastest ships in the world!

and wheres the purple gang *sob*
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Postby Coleman on Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:55 pm

Make northside more purple. lol
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Postby cairnswk on Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:22 pm

a-person1192 wrote:maybe a good map to play


hope so a-person1192...thanks for dropping by. :)
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Postby cairnswk on Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:26 pm

RjBeals wrote:Not sure the planes fit too well. Do you get a bonus to hold the 3 planes? Can you cross the river? The connection lines are very hard to follow along the streets. Whats that strange pattern and target towards the bottom left (tax dept)? Kinda neat. I like the giggle juice trucks & gun graphics. I like how the the gangsters names make up the territories. Nice start Cairns. I'm sure you'll adjust colors as the map progresses.


yesh thanks Rj....long way to go! :)
To answer some of your questions:
* the planes were taken from the map that this is partially based on
* a bonus for the planes is doable
* well, yes crossing the river is usually done by mobsters in cars, they hate getting their feet wet LOL
* connection lines are to be tizzies up
* apparently i didin't complete some parts of the map.
* like the fact there are some areas you like
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Postby cairnswk on Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:31 pm

Coleman wrote:This rocks my socks.

Question...

"Mobsters can attack each other at any time"

That seems awkward, shouldn't it be bombard? It doesn't seem right that attacking each other leads to a take over.


Well, i don't know about bombard. Noramally gangsters would want to kill rival gang members to take over their territories wouldn't they.

I like the assist terminology better. Maybe mobsters of the same gang could assist each other too, but rival mobsters bombard.
mobsters of smae gangs could "assist" each other, very possible.

You'd need to change the layout if you did this, as I get that right now mobsters attacking each other is a big way to move around the map and some places aren't connected if you change it.

yes that the way of moving around the map.....streets (as we found out with sydney) aren't exactly the best carriageway for players to move.
I am not in favour of changing the layout, unless this one is completely useless.
Thanks for the comments though Coleman. :)
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Postby cairnswk on Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:34 pm

Herakilla wrote:why planes? majority of booze came on boats. the ships would land at canada, buy the beer and stuff, then leave with their official destination in Cuba lol. they were the fastest ships in the world!

and wheres the purple gang *sob*


Planes are used because it was on the mpa that i took it from.
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Postby mibi on Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:53 pm

What about Bugsy Siegal?
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Postby cairnswk on Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:04 pm

mibi wrote:What about Bugsy Siegal?


1. This era?
2. What outfit?
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Postby cairnswk on Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:05 pm

Version 2.

Changes:

1. Colour changes as requested
2. Beginnings of new connectors...note indentations in city blocks for the connections.
3. Altering of Capone Terts.

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Postby cairnswk on Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:11 pm

cairnswk wrote:
mibi wrote:What about Bugsy Siegal?


1. This era?
2. What outfit?


Wiki says he was only an associate....and made more of name for himself in California and Las Vegas, later in 1947?
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Postby mibi on Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:17 pm

cairnswk wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
mibi wrote:What about Bugsy Siegal?


1. This era?
2. What outfit?


Wiki says he was only an associate....and made more of name for himself in California and Las Vegas, later in 1947?


Mickey Cohen was Bugsy's leutentant and back by the Chicago Outfit. Cohen took over after Bugsy was... wacked.
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Postby cairnswk on Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:50 pm

mibi wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
mibi wrote:What about Bugsy Siegal?


1. This era?
2. What outfit?


Wiki says he was only an associate....and made more of name for himself in California and Las Vegas, later in 1947?


Mickey Cohen was Bugsy's leutentant and back by the Chicago Outfit. Cohen took over after Bugsy was... wacked.


I am reluctant to put him in, because he had more of a Brooklyn connection. However, if you insist, who do we take out to replace him with.
I really don't think he had as big a role in Chicago as the other.
Can you point to your references to convince me, mibi.
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Postby edbeard on Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:55 pm

Maybe instead of just the Chicago connection, you make it into the east chicago and west chicago connections.

Right now it is 20 territories. Who the hell is going to hold all of that?

10 and 10 makes sense to me.

10 happens to be the number of grey territories west and east of that road
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Postby cairnswk on Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:58 pm

edbeard wrote:Maybe instead of just the Chicago connection, you make it into the east chicago and west chicago connections.

Right now it is 20 territories. Who the hell is going to hold all of that?

10 and 10 makes sense to me.

10 happens to be the number of grey territories west and east of that road


Yeah....that works for me edbeard....good suggestion!...providing there is no other objections to it.
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Postby edbeard on Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:07 pm

oh. another thing I was thinking about....


what if you held the majority of Leaders for a certain gang and you get a bonus.

Maybe for the chicago mafia it would be quite small +1 since it's only two territories, but that could be something.

you'd need 3 for the purple, 4 for the pinkish etc...
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Postby cairnswk on Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:10 pm

edbeard wrote:oh. another thing I was thinking about....


what if you held the majority of Leaders for a certain gang and you get a bonus.

Maybe for the chicago mafia it would be quite small +1 since it's only two territories, but that could be something.

you'd need 3 for the purple, 4 for the pinkish etc...


are you talking about say 2 out of 4 best of + 2 situation?
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