Another option is to give a maximum of 2 pitchers per game, and to reduce all the starting positions by a bit, say 2 troops. It would slow down 5+ player games a bit, but now 2-4 player games would start with only 22 reinforceable troops per player.

I like this idea.
So far I haven't heard ...

Hi, I just spent 30 minutes constructing an argument for beginning with as many pitchers as would fit (4 each for 1v1 games and 2 each for doubles, 3-player and 4-player games) but then firefox crashed.

Would you believe me that I constructed a very sound argument in regards to both gameplay and ...

Maybe make the "paint" a bit darker so the bricks don't show through so much. And by darker I mean less transparent.

I believe killer neutrals are always enforced before the territory bonus is calculated. The log seems fine to me.

Did the starting. Armies/positions change? I'm in a game where we only started with 3 pitchers and only 1 had 12 to start

Manual deployment?


Yes first time using manual

I just started a game ( 8970227 , but foggy). Its 4 player auto initial troops, and one of my pitchers started with 12 and ...

Ok, I still have absolutely no idea what a mafia game is. How does it have anything to do with playing a CC game? I must be missing something but I believe the original post doesn't mention anything about it.

Sounds like "Industrial Sabotage" is the favorite. I agree it probably is the most fitting.

Are there any other details that can be worked out while we are waiting?

natty_dread wrote:Although, I guess it could also be written as:

"+2 for every base held except home"

That would also work

Or: "+2 for every base held except" ::picture of home plate::

Well, it is always referred to as home plate. For baseball fans, seeing "home base" is just weird. Since this map is big on authenticity, I suggest home plate. (Even the quote you posted refers to it as home plate after the initial disclaimer.)

Quick comment: its "home plate" not "home base". Just change that one word.

I dont think being stuck on a home run ball is a problem even with two players left unless the other player is a jerk and malicously continues on the game which i dont see players doing.

No, you don't get it. If one player is stuck on home runs, and the other player doesn't have any pitchers ...

Having the mound assault the batter ruins the concept of the mound and pitcher being different. The flow of the gameplay is pitcher to batter, batter to balls, balls to field. If getting "stuck" on the homeruns is such a problem, then insert a losing condition. I don't think this is a big enough ...

I think its fine the way it is. Yes it is annoying to get stuck in the home run ball, but in team games its actually a good thing (better than being eliminated). If there must be a losing condition, then just make it the pitchers, no need for additional "closers."

I would be inclined to say 1 if for no other reason than to limit the freestyle scenario InnyaFacce described above.

I also agree the home runs need to be tweaked. I like the +2 with +2 extra per base idea, although I still think the neutral value could be raised to 8 or 9. I think the goal should ...

Ya, sabotage was just the first thing that came to mind, but I agree just saying sabotage doesn't make sense. I like "Industrial Espionage." Any other thoughts?

What about changing the word "Zeppelins" to something like "Sabotage"? I don't think gameplay should be sacrificed if an alternate "interpretation" can be found.

Now I'm even more confused... where did you get 376 from? Do you mean 451?

351 territories. 16 starting positions. 160 buildings in 16 cities. 291 land territories.

Has anyone noticed that your math here doesn't work?

Tons of maps have places where you can get "stuck." That being said, a losing condition might be a good idea.

Ya, I guess it might be a bit much, and since its not doable with the current xml, its a moot point anyways. I just thought it was a cool idea and wanted to throw it out there.

Cool map natty! Just looking at this for the first time, its a bit hard to get a feel for how games will play out without knowing what neutral values you are thinking (especially for the buildings). I like that the factory bonus is tied to the mines (food refinery/farms, etc.), that concept of ...

Great to hear about possible xml updates! and TaCktiX, I really like that you're already thinking about the next one... can't wait!

P.S. Props for taking a picture of all the security cameras at the airport. I don't think they look down at that at all

Its worth the wait in my opinion. It has taken a loooong time to get this map to this point, its worth a bit more time to make sure it plays well.

Ya, I agree with Natty. There are a ton of little details in this map that baseball junkies will like. No need to confuse non-baseball people.

Natty, do you think ball 3 might be moved to the left a bit? The shadow overlaps with LC5, and while I don't think many people will be confused, moving it over might still be worth it. (Especially since all the other non-home run balls touch at least 2 territories.)