A let kong off today solution, without assessing his claim, i dont think seals things.

Know or try to know if he is guilty first.

And a few posts back you were questioning yourself re my guilt.

A you attack the problem from one end, i attack it from the other solution is possible here.

What do you do if kong wont claim now?

Theres a lot of permutations here, a kong/hjelp permutation from where im sitting is the most likely at the moment.

Demand kong claims asap
If hes uncontestably innocent then be prepared to fry an innocent guy

Going for most simple / least brainfrying is ...

Best thing for an innocent Kong to do is claim.

He'll look guilty D2 if he doesn't when I flip.
He might not have anywhere to turn though.

Not me playing for time Sonic.

Also bear in mind my claim is currently uncontested so following First Game - Windows was the second back up - a first back up that also has corresponding name and role would know I had to be infected and not the OG thing.

Best play for you right now Sonic would be to unvote at least till the ...

And if he claims other than the first game 9 then someone else can back him up if they too claim they are not one of the first game 9.

Its premature.

If Kong claims a character/role that someone else claims - he's fried.
If he claims Nauls or Windows he's fried.
He can only claim the truth if he's innocent.
He can in fact clear himself (currtently) if he claims one of the first game 9 that noone else claims

Therer is also the ...

I've got to give short answer - even though you think this is playing for time - and log out and cycle home from work.

What do you have to lose from asking Kong to claim?

If (just for arguments sake) Hjelp isn't infected then neither am I.
I do think Hjelp is running confusion though.

When he flips though would be great to know what Kong has claimed first.
There's a few scenarios in play here.

One is Hjelp could have claimed Kongs original role.
Kong can't claim an ...

I suspect a guilty Kong might decide best option is to play clock down though - (not sure on that) - then a fast 1-2 on me and Hjelp or vice versa allows infected to reinfect ANO and live to fight another day for the infected faction
I also think a guilty Kong is trappable here (probably)
And an ...

No that isn't the reason as you will see in due course.

I'm saying wait to see what Kong claims in the very first instance.

Fpd by Sonic

Again wait to see - there is value in it - I'm sure.
You have Hjelp and me (if it is me) in the bag
softly softly catchy monkey (kong) - or clear monkey (for right now infected)
or catch goosey gander - and goosey ...

You are arguing with me when you should be asking Kong to claim - to double check the rigour of what you think - and to verify Kong isn't infected now (for D2 purposes) when you see for sure what I am now.

FPd by Sonic

Yes probably adds to reason you should ask Kong to claim - if so would have ...

Trust my play from whatever game you cited before that you wanted me to get back to.
Or at least humour it.

I mean cleared D2 as an infected right now.

And equally there's scenarios in which he's cleared D2

Gotta be worth it if so?

I'm pretty sure there are scenarios in which you can pin Kong D2 even if I'm flamed today or tonight if you make him claim

I changed my mid on Devante once I became convinced that Hjelp was infected.
My theory on Devante only worked IF he was playing you and with one of the players not on the BT of you.
The multiple posts of Devante were weird to me though.

MAKE KONG CLAIM!

Maybe as part of considering all options you could start by asking Kong to claim?

The taking the vote off was to give you time to consider all options

Whether you think it is me depends on the level of "bad play" (and dishonest play) you ascribe to me.

If you think I'm poor (to go for Devante) but not necessarily That Poor (to have started going for Devante when I did) - thats ...

Whatever you do you should do it in a way that examines Kong because it might not be Kong

fpd by Sonic

No I'm not the OG Thing

I actually think the optimal play is for you to switch the lynch vote onto me right now - you have time to switch back if you decide otherwise.

Mine would be a futile claim if I didn't start as Windows
Hjelp could be lying he didnt infect
In what world would Hjelp have infected me

The equation to consider is what you think you have on me vs Kong and Hjelp or Hjelp and Kong both work.
You should have a look at Kong.

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True order doesn't matter or maybe it does.

But for what its worth lynch Kong

Actually F'it I'm going to say it.

My claim is Windows 2nd BackUp

Hjelps last post has convinced me he IS infected.

So whilst you digest this;

unvote Hjelp