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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby benga on Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:00 am

Thanks Mad,

just sent last invites and updated the Team thread.

Enjoy folks!
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby jfm10 on Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:25 am

If you guys could work in an assassin championship it would be awesome.Of my 7589 games 3666 have been assassin and I believe it is what I excel at the most.Either way this is a great tournement and thank yous for putting it on.
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby benga on Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:41 pm

We have agreed to set a limit to 160 players.
There are only 4 more slots open, hurry up!
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby Mad777 on Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:24 pm

Maybe 5, I have noted boat4hire lost his Premium, I have walled him and ask if he is thinking taking Premium again, if not I will manually remove him.
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby josko.ri on Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:31 pm

I think Kotaro also left CC.

Btw, may you add an extra round to reduce players to 128 and then continue normally?

It is too much to have drop from 160 to 96 players in round 1 only.
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby Mad777 on Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:40 pm

josko.ri wrote:I think Kotaro also left CC.

Btw, may you add an extra round to reduce players to 128 and then continue normally?

It is too much to have drop from 160 to 96 players in round 1 only.

I think you are right about Kotaro, all his ongoing game shows him kicked for kissing turns.
As far adding rounds I would say no, all rounds 1 together is 21 games per players and the top 5 of each group of 8 will move on (at this point the structure will have 20 groups of 8 players).
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby josko.ri on Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:06 pm

Mad777 wrote:
josko.ri wrote:I think Kotaro also left CC.

Btw, may you add an extra round to reduce players to 128 and then continue normally?

It is too much to have drop from 160 to 96 players in round 1 only.

I think you are right about Kotaro, all his ongoing game shows him kicked for kissing turns.
As far adding rounds I would say no, all rounds 1 together is 21 games per players and the top 5 of each group of 8 will move on (at this point the structure will have 20 groups of 8 players).

The tournament has 27 rounds, I find it non-proportional that almost half (3/8) of players gets eliminated after round 3. At least jump to 128 players originally planned after 3 rounds play-in is what I propose and have 30 rounds instead of 27.
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby Mad777 on Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:19 pm

josko.ri wrote:
Mad777 wrote:
josko.ri wrote:I think Kotaro also left CC.

Btw, may you add an extra round to reduce players to 128 and then continue normally?

It is too much to have drop from 160 to 96 players in round 1 only.

I think you are right about Kotaro, all his ongoing game shows him kicked for kissing turns.
As far adding rounds I would say no, all rounds 1 together is 21 games per players and the top 5 of each group of 8 will move on (at this point the structure will have 20 groups of 8 players).

The tournament has 27 rounds, I find it non-proportional that almost half (3/8) of players gets eliminated after round 3. At least jump to 128 players originally planned after 3 rounds play-in is what I propose and have 30 rounds instead of 27.

A player has 15 rounds to found his/her way to be part of the 10% remaining to start the bracket phase (5 stage of Round Robins), Also and counting on the game load, several players will be glad to be out after the 21 games and the first rage of Roond Robin...throughout the 5 stages we are already reaching the 100 games per players, this is a lot and more than the previous editions.
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby benga on Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:13 am

Only thing I thought we can do is to tweek the numbers for other rounds, but giving it a 2nd thought that's not the way to go.
The way it is is fine. You can take 1st three rounds as a purge.

The best will rise to top, and starting rounds are a good filter to measure someone's quality.
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby josko.ri on Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:35 am

I think you are missing "score resets" between rounds, at least after bracket phase ir not for round Robin phase as well. Is this made purposely?
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby Mad777 on Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:46 am

josko.ri wrote:I think you are missing "score resets" between rounds, at least after bracket phase ir not for round Robin phase as well. Is this made purposely?

Yes it was on my notes to update it before making the groups, I have update the bracket phase score reset at each stage (R16, R19, R22, R25).
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby josko.ri on Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:42 am

Also in round 17, 18 and some later rounds I can see "seeded by score". That means that seeding will maybe give different opponents in those rounds depending on score. Aren't we supposed to play the same opponent in rounds 16,17,18 and all later 3 consecutive rounds?
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby Mad777 on Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:46 am

josko.ri wrote:Also in round 17, 18 and some later rounds I can see "seeded by score". That means that seeding will maybe give different opponents in those rounds depending on score. Aren't we supposed to play the same opponent in rounds 16,17,18 and all later 3 consecutive rounds?

All matchup to be manually created behind the scene, doesn’t matter if you see random or seeded by score, you should play the same opponent throughout the 3 stages at each bracket segment (R16, 1/4F, 1/2F, F)....Unless I misunderstood the initial intent.
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby josko.ri on Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:55 am

I think you can without problems collect 168 or 176 players if you allow singups for several more days, as there is 13 days left until the deadline. It has been filled quickly up to now.
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby Mad777 on Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:37 am

josko.ri wrote:I think you can without problems collect 168 or 176 players if you allow singups for several more days, as there is 13 days left until the deadline. It has been filled quickly up to now.

It has filled as is because several PM were sent, you won’t gather as much as I got for my 10th anniversary event for instance because game loading, my event plays 1 game at the time, Poly Championships is 3x7 games at the time. Also Mad’s 10th was opened to Freemium as well which helped to get almost a dozen of extra players. If the first purge would have occurs after Round 1a then yes we would have pushed even harder to gather more members but we would like to ensure everyone registered is willing to play 21 games, you may not see that but this could be seen as “a lot” for many members.
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby shoop76 on Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:11 am

When can we expect this to start?
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby Mad777 on Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:17 am

shoop76 wrote:When can we expect this to start?

I will check with benga and bigWham, I will need sometime to create the 20 groups of 8 and BW may have some coding to link players to the scoreboard for Tribe ranking purpose. Will post here today with start date.
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby josko.ri on Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:57 am

When we say that 10 the best players count for Tribal scoreboard, does it mean 10 the best of each Tribe for each championship separately, or 10 Tribe players who scored the most wins in overall over all 5 tournaments?
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby josko.ri on Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:04 am

Will Round Robin be seeded by score or random draw? Will group of 8 Round Robin players be the same for rounds 1,2,3 or it will change each round? Will score resets after every 3 rounds until best-of-16 or will score sum accumulate from previous rounds to next rounds until best-of-16?
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby Mad777 on Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:26 am

josko.ri wrote:When we say that 10 the best players count for Tribal scoreboard, does it mean 10 the best of each Tribe for each championship separately, or 10 Tribe players who scored the most wins in overall over all 5 tournaments?

The Tribes ranking is based for all championships, that is why you see 5 tokens representing each championship. Same applies to the individual ranking.

Team will have a manual score board run showing here, open the round 1 spoiler and you will start seeing red scoring, and into the tournament section as well. All other Championships auto tournament will show scorboard as usual in the tournament window.
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby Mad777 on Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:29 am

josko.ri wrote:Will Round Robin be seeded by score or random draw? Will group of 8 Round Robin players be the same for rounds 1,2,3 or it will change each round? Will score resets after every 3 rounds until best-of-16 or will score sum accumulate from previous rounds to next rounds until best-of-16?


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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby Mad777 on Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:39 am

Championship Conquest is now OPEN!

...as you may have noticed we should start Poly event earlier than scheduled, this because we feel having the right amount of contestant, keep in mind the schedule in the first post may be subject to change, we have initially put it together however, approaching the deadline could see the tournamen ready earlier and we have no reason to wait for it start.

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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby josko.ri on Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:02 am

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josko.ri wrote:When we say that 10 the best players count for Tribal scoreboard, does it mean 10 the best of each Tribe for each championship separately, or 10 Tribe players who scored the most wins in overall over all 5 tournaments?

The Tribes ranking is based for all championships, that is why you see 5 tokens representing each championship. Same applies to the individual ranking.

I think your answer is contradictory to OP. OP says "Cumulative points of top 10 players per each Championship." which means each championship should be evaluated separately for the Tribe scoreboard. For example, if a Tribe has player who plays only 1 The Championship and wins it, his score should contribute to his Tribe for that The Championship, even if he is not among top 10 Tribe players counting all The Championships together.
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Re: The Championships 2019

Postby Mad777 on Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:35 am

josko.ri wrote:
Mad777 wrote:
josko.ri wrote:When we say that 10 the best players count for Tribal scoreboard, does it mean 10 the best of each Tribe for each championship separately, or 10 Tribe players who scored the most wins in overall over all 5 tournaments?

The Tribes ranking is based for all championships, that is why you see 5 tokens representing each championship. Same applies to the individual ranking.

I think your answer is contradictory to OP. OP says "Cumulative points of top 10 players per each Championship." which means each championship should be evaluated separately for the Tribe scoreboard. For example, if a Tribe has player who plays only 1 The Championship and wins it, his score should contribute to his Tribe for that The Championship, even if he is not among top 10 Tribe players counting all The Championships together.

Then I was wrong and you found the answer by yourself ;) , we will ask bigWham to make sure the scoreboard has been set as is then and to prevent issue down the road.
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The Championships 2019 - Poly Round 1 Groups

Postby Mad777 on Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:02 pm

Here are the groups made for Round 1.

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