[Abandoned] Pirates and Merchants - V9 - Pg 1&13

[natty dread]

it might not affect the gameplay, but PNG does not have a straight border with it's neighbour and i beleive it should be fixed to show the correct border.

I have to say I don't think this is a big issue. If this was a map about PNG, then it would be more reasonable to demand an accurate outer border... but the map is a pirate-themed map that just happens to take place in PNG, so the fully accurate geographical representation shouldn't be the first priority here...

I also think that it looks better to have the frame on top of the land- it would look weird if the frame was "cut off" in that one spot only while being consistent everywhere else.

I do agree about the cliparts though, I'd like to see something a bit more in line with the pirate theme - the current ones are a bit too "flowery" to match the theme. The sea serpents are good though.

[DiM]

ok then i'll take out the current flourishes and try something else.
i'm not really in a map making mood and i haven't been for quite some time but i'll see what i can come up with.

[DiM]

quality has changed very little since you did the two hour job on the contest version.

so the number of changes or updates is irrelevant. if you look at most of my recent maps the final version is very similar to the first version. that's simply because i try to make the maps as complete as possible before the release.

same goes for the amount of time spent on a map. you keep reproaching me i made that map in 2 hours like it was a bad thing. i felt inspired and i worked fast. other times i'm simply stumped on the littlest thing and i waste hours not accomplishing anything. am i supposed to work 100 more hours now to compensate? is there a certain standard for number of hours spent on a map?

[zimmah]

quality has changed very little since you did the two hour job on the contest version.

so the number of changes or updates is irrelevant. if you look at most of my recent maps the final version is very similar to the first version. that's simply because i try to make the maps as complete as possible before the release.

same goes for the amount of time spent on a map. you keep reproaching me i made that map in 2 hours like it was a bad thing. i felt inspired and i worked fast. other times i'm simply stumped on the littlest thing and i waste hours not accomplishing anything. am i supposed to work 100 more hours now to compensate? is there a certain standard for number of hours spent on a map?

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this is an actual playable map on CC, do i need to say more?

[DiM]

this is an actual playable map on CC, do i need to say more?

wow
the shitty graphics on that map are nothing compared to the awful counterintuitive design.
i honestly have no idea what connects to what.
thank god for BoB otherwise that map would be unplayable.

[natty dread]

this is an actual playable map on CC, do i need to say more?

wow
the shitty graphics on that map are nothing compared to the awful counterintuitive design.
i honestly have no idea what connects to what.
thank god for BoB otherwise that map would be unplayable.

I did mention at the time that those lines should be scrapped, but no one listened to me...

[RedBaron0]

Focus guys. Bashing someone else's map isn't productive.

[Gillipig]

I don't like the black dots around the land. Where it meets territory labels it clutters them and where it doesn't it don't add anything.
Have you tried with a different sea colour? Keep the texture because it looks good but make the paper pale blue instead. The sea monsters would look more at home for sure .

[RedBaron0]

:kick: How goes DiM?

[DiM]

:kick: How goes DiM?

slow. can't really find the will to update my maps but i'll eventually do it.

[RedBaron0]

You do have some time actually, I didn't see the 16th as the last update... XD I kept stumbling on the older posts saying that the last update was in January for some odd reason...

[army of nobunaga]

this is an actual playable map on CC, do i need to say more?

wow
the shitty graphics on that map are nothing compared to the awful counterintuitive design.
i honestly have no idea what connects to what.
thank god for BoB otherwise that map would be unplayable.

Im glad someone else says this publically... I feel like an ass when I say such things.


This pirate maps is good to me. and Im pretty harsh.

For a small paypal to you, could you change one of the pirate ships to "Nobu" ?

[army of nobunaga]

Instead of Eric the Dark, could it be nobu the dark? Money for the change and more when it goes into play and accepted.

I have been asking Tisha for a year to make a Pirate map with my name as a pirate...

I like this. good work so far man.

[DiM]

V9:
all sorts of minor nitpicks and changes ranging from the title to font changes to flourishes and borders. i honestly don't remember everything i did cause it was done over a long period bit by bit.

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[DiM]

are people happy with this? shall i start the small?

[RedBaron0]

Generally so, but I do have a question, it's more of a personal preference... The lines of longitude and latitude. That curvature of the lines on a map would only really be true near the poles, not that far north. They should have a slight curve, of course, the Earth being round and all, but in theory should be horizontal and vertical across the map.

[DiM]

Generally so, but I do have a question, it's more of a personal preference... The lines of longitude and latitude. That curvature of the lines on a map would only really be true near the poles, not that far north. They should have a slight curve, of course, the Earth being round and all, but in theory should be horizontal and vertical across the map.

the latitude and longitude are in the border and they're horizontal and vertical. they're not on the board because i don't quite like how that looks with a perfect grid.

the ones that are on the map are there just for the flow of the map, not for geographical purposes. if they're really bothering people i can remove them.

[RedBaron0]

I kinda figured, and like I said, its a personal thing for me from a geographic stand point. And we all know this isn't going to be used for navigation... so as long as everyone else doesn't mind, I'm ok with it.

[Kabanellas]

woowww haven't notice this one before!! It's looking great! I'll have to dissect it properly

P.S. - meant to do a Caribbean pirates style map for quite some time. Based on that really old Sid Meier's game for the Commodore 64

[Kabanellas]

Ok... This one is definitely on the top scale of sexiness!

So, you can't win it by dominance just by objectives right? The XML seems tasty as well

[DiM]

Ok... This one is definitely on the top scale of sexiness!

thanks. it was my entry for the PNG competition that got refurbished into this

So, you can't win it by dominance just by objectives right?

the only way to win is to complete your mission. fog on this map will make for a very interesting game.

The XML seems tasty as well

zimmah will sink his teeth in it.

[isaiah40]

I have no concerns with this. Go ahead and get the small done, and please update the OP with CB tests, and both versions with 888's on them

[DiM]

small:

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deuteranope:

protanope:

tritanope:

[Kabanellas]

the only way to win is to complete your mission.

I Love it!!

Not really sure if missions are totally balanced, especially because Pirates and Merchants have different characteristics. On the first glance I'd say Merchants have an advantage due to the Governor feature thought they're limited to Ports for reaching coast while Pirates can reach any coastal region... I guess we'll only know that for sure testing it on Beta phase.

[isaiah40]

Looks good to me! Anyone have any concerns concerning the graphics?? If not then this will get stamped in about 48 hours!!