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Re: HOLYWARS 1250 - VERSION 34

Postby HitRed on Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:52 pm

Fuchsia tude wrote:Why am I able to reinforce from Hafsid Caliphate to Mali Empire, but not vice versa? The map says they border, but nothing about that connection being one-way.

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Reviewed and this is an issue.
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Re: HOLYWARS 1250 - VERSION 34

Postby Fuchsia tude on Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:43 pm

I feel like removing the Gibraltar crossing harms the balance of this map. As is, the Caliphates are clearly worse than the Roman and Mongol bonuses, even though they're valued the same. Not only are the Caliphates more spread out, bordering more continents, they're discontinuous. Neither of the other two have this problem, plus the Tengerians and especially the Catholics each have a corner where they can consolidate and keep to themselves (re-adding the Gibraltar crossing would fix this re:Catholics), while the Muslims need to cross half the map to claim their bonus.

The Caliphate should either have a relatively higher bonus, or maybe the Delhi (and Somali?) Sultanate should be broken out into something separate? Maybe an autodeploy, or a +1 each if Caliphates bonus is held? Or just make Delhi Sultanate part of no bonus.
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Re: HOLYWARS 1250 - VERSION 34

Postby HitRed on Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:08 pm

I read the map the same way but after playing this isn't an issue. Taking Africa is +2 for Oriental + 3 for your turn = 5 drop, MAYBE plus Jerusalem + 1 and MAYBE Arabian Tribes then you have twelve terr so another +1, MAYBE cards +10. The other players don't view the Muslim bonus as a threat and so Africa burns less troops. Stacking 3 or 4 turns on Ayyubid and you have a nice offensive stack. Also you only need to defend Ayyubid to defend all of Africa. Stout defense.
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Re: HOLYWARS 1250 - VERSION 34

Postby Vlasov on Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:19 am

Several Beta games have been played, or are in progress. What's the next step?
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Re: HOLYWARS 1250 - VERSION 34

Postby iancanton on Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:17 pm

iancanton wrote:
HitRed wrote:Only one issue - visually and intrinsically I thought Rum could attack Jerusalem. Most players will also be confused. Straighten that out somehow and it's gold!

the jerusalem border is not only a perfect circle that is very close to the troop circle but, unlike all other borders, continues unbroken into the sea till it hits land again. if the jerusalem region becomes slightly bigger and a more irregular shape whose border stops at the sea, with the troop circle itself being moved slightly further left, then this will lessen confusion. the colour used for borders blends in very well with some of the natural features, when it needs to pop out a little more.

Donelladan wrote:Some of the troops number aren't well centered in their circle.

Also find the names not really smooth/readable. Especially the legends when using the small maps.

Fuchsia tude wrote:Why am I able to reinforce from Hafsid Caliphate to Mali Empire, but not vice versa? The map says they border, but nothing about that connection being one-way.

the xml must be amended so that mali empire can assault hafsid caliphate, with the result that mali empire troops can reinforce hafsid caliphate.

oriental orthodox is mislabelled as eastern orthodox in the xml, therefore oriental orthodox never appears in the game log.

marinid and zayyanid are adjectives, not nouns. are they caliphates, sultanates or something else? the map and xml must be amended appropriately.

ian. :)
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Re: HOLYWARS 1250 - VERSION 34

Postby Fuchsia tude on Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:13 pm

iancanton wrote:marinid and zayyanid are adjectives, not nouns. are they caliphates, sultanates or something else? the map and xml must be amended appropriately.

ian. :)

I believe it was Marinid Sultanate and Zayyanid Kingdom.
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Re: HOLYWARS 1250 - VERSION 34

Postby iancanton on Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:37 pm

thanks, Fuchsia tude. another quibble for CHAMPOS: ayyubid caliphate was more correctly ayyubid sultanate.

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Re: HOLYWARS 1250 - VERSION 34c

Postby iancanton on Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:04 pm

iancanton wrote:
Fuchsia tude wrote:Why am I able to reinforce from Hafsid Caliphate to Mali Empire, but not vice versa? The map says they border, but nothing about that connection being one-way.

the xml must be amended so that mali empire can assault hafsid caliphate, with the result that mali empire troops can reinforce hafsid caliphate.

oriental orthodox is mislabelled as eastern orthodox in the xml, therefore oriental orthodox never appears in the game log.

xml v34c uploaded to the beta site to correct the two issues above!

ian. :)
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