Gillipig wrote:Maybe the foundry needs it's own "society of cooks" forum? There, new mapmakers who are trying to learn the basics of map making and not actually trying to make a map yet, could get all the help they need and be treated in a more gentle way
There are several flaws in this idea.
Firstly, the SoC teaches people to play a game. There's no harm in it if they fail to learn and lose a game or two - they can take a more relaxed attitude with it, because even if the students fail that doesn't f*ck up anything in the long term. Here in the foundry though, if a mapmaker fails and everyone is just being too nice about it to say anything negative, then the result is a failed map.
Secondly, creating a play-pen for new mapmakers where they are treated with kiddie gloves and wrapped in swaddling is just going to cause a culture shock when they migrate to the foundry and are faced with honest criticism and feedback. It's better that they learn to deal with the feedback system from the start, and learn to accept criticism. We really don't need any mapmakers who are unable to take criticism to their work.
Gillipig wrote:I think it would be a nice way to "lure" more players into mapmaking
Do we really need to "lure" more people into mapmaking? I think we get enough mapmakers as it is. Look at the main foundry, it's chock-full of map threads. The FF has a huge waiting list of maps on their way to beta.
Some people complain about the system, for various reasons, and give up mapmaking after their first attempt fails. Others struggle on, stay their course even when it's difficult, and ultimately succeed. The foundry is not for everyone, and I don't think we should make the process "easier", because the process is supposed to be difficult - it's supposed to challenge the mapmaker to do the best work he possibly can.