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Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat[CLEARED]es

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:19 am
by leapfrog
Accused:

Moffat
barroland
DeAnza
Acheng



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis

Other: In each game turns are one after another and all with in a few minutes or less.




Game number(s):

[game]8597997 [/game]
Game 8596747



Comments: If we are wrong, we are sorry, but something is just not right.

Re: Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:21 am
by TheForgivenOne
leapfrog wrote:Accused:

Moffat
barroland
DeAnza
Acheng



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Severe PM Abuse
Other: In each game turns are one after another and all with in a few minutes or less.




Game number(s):

Game 8597997
Game 8596747



Comments: If we are wrong, we are sorry, but something is just not right.


Fixed your one link 8-[

Re: Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:49 pm
by Elochai477
How is there any secret diplomacy? Both games are team games.

And severe pm abuse? In both games they seem polite or otherwise don't talk at all. In fact, in Game 8597997 epic0002 is the one being extremely rude and offensive and he's on your team.

The only accusation that appears to hold any weight is that they could be multi's, but I think its more likely they just know each other and are using a good strategy to win the games. This looks more like poor sportsmanship on your team's part than anything else.

Re: Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:23 pm
by TheForgivenOne
Elochai477 wrote:How is there any secret diplomacy? Both games are team games.

And severe pm abuse? In both games they seem polite or otherwise don't talk at all. In fact, in Game 8597997 epic0002 is the one being extremely rude and offensive and he's on your team.

The only accusation that appears to hold any weight is that they could be multi's, but I think its more likely they just know each other and are using a good strategy to win the games. This looks more like poor sportsmanship on your team's part than anything else.


I'm sure the OP was too lazy to delete Secret Diplomacy and the PM abuse :roll:

DeAnza Acheng barroland Moffat Multi

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:04 pm
by epic0002
Accused:

DeAnza
Acheng
barroland
Moffat



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis




Game number(s):

Game 8597997
Game 8596747
and others



Comments: Obvious. looks like DeAnza is the main account... others created within a week of each other... move one right after each other... never at the same time. Easy bust

Re: Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:06 pm
by Elochai477
TheForgivenOne wrote:
Elochai477 wrote:How is there any secret diplomacy? Both games are team games.

And severe pm abuse? In both games they seem polite or otherwise don't talk at all. In fact, in Game 8597997 epic0002 is the one being extremely rude and offensive and he's on your team.

The only accusation that appears to hold any weight is that they could be multi's, but I think its more likely they just know each other and are using a good strategy to win the games. This looks more like poor sportsmanship on your team's part than anything else.


I'm sure the OP was too lazy to delete Secret Diplomacy and the PM abuse :roll:


Ah that would make more sense, I see it was edited out too

Re: DeAnza Acheng barroland Moffat Multi

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:15 pm
by Elochai477
This accusation was already made here:
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=139548

Also take note that the 4 players are from 2 different countries...

Re: Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:28 pm
by JCR
I have to agree with the OPs suspicion for what it is worth. I played moffat and barroland in a dubs supermax game. They knew exactly what to do for a couple of relatively inexperienced players. I did not bother to post due to the fact that I had no evidence to back up my suspicion andthat it would simply appear tobe a case of sore loser syndrom.
However an 87% win ratio for moffat, the difficulty level of the maps, and the quality of the opponents(better than I) "they" beat leads me to believe there is something to the claim.
There is at least enough circumstantial evidence for me to update my list.
I see that out of four, 2 are from Taiwan. 2 sets of multis perhaps?

Re: Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:35 pm
by TheForgivenOne
Or perhaps family members? I just faced 4 players in a Quads freestyle game, that all took their turns back to back. Suspicious, yes. But easily could be family members saying "Hey, we are up in that game, go take your turn quickly."

Re: Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:45 pm
by epic0002
TheForgivenOne wrote:Or perhaps family members? I just faced 4 players in a Quads freestyle game, that all took their turns back to back. Suspicious, yes. But easily could be family members saying "Hey, we are up in that game, go take your turn quickly."







DeAnza created his whole family within 3 weeks... 3 kids in three weeks .WOW :roll:

Re: Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:49 pm
by JCR
My Wife and I play dubs and are in the same clan, so I can see your point. There is unquestionably a learning curve to this site. I have played this game all my life and my ego got checked rather quickly on here. that seems to have been overcome rather quickly by these guys though. so either highly intelligent individuals all joining and playing together or......
Just my 2 cents. I will be interested to see if they are cleared.

Re: Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:51 pm
by epic0002
The only accusation that appears to hold any weight is that they could be multi's, but I think its more likely they just know each other and are using a good strategy to win the games. This looks more like poor sportsmanship on your team's part than anything else.[/quote]


Maybe being a PAYING member since 2007 gives me a poor attitude against non-sub multis ceated last month... you BUSTED me =D>

Re: Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:00 pm
by epic0002
looks like Philodox was another "family member" used in trips

Re: DeAnza Acheng barroland Moffat Multi

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:38 pm
by Evil Semp
I am going to merge this with the other thread.

Re: DeAnza Acheng barroland Moffat Multi

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:39 pm
by epic0002
Evil Semp wrote:I am going to merge this with the other thread.




Thanks.. Sorry for the duplicate

Re: Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:28 am
by TheForgivenOne
epic0002 wrote:
TheForgivenOne wrote:Or perhaps family members? I just faced 4 players in a Quads freestyle game, that all took their turns back to back. Suspicious, yes. But easily could be family members saying "Hey, we are up in that game, go take your turn quickly."







DeAnza created his whole family within 3 weeks... 3 kids in three weeks .WOW :roll:

:roll: Try again?

Maybe a husband, wife, and 2 kids? Husband aged 40, wife aged 40, children aged 13-18?

Re: Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat[pending]es

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:40 am
by jefjef
g-ma - g-pa - dad - mom... whatever.

I, who sees multi's everywhere and in everyone, do not believe Moffat and barroland are multi (with each other)

Re: Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat[pending]es

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:18 am
by epic0002
jefjef wrote:g-ma - g-pa - dad - mom... whatever.

I, who sees multi's everywhere and in everyone, do not believe Moffat and barroland are multi (with each other)




Whatever :roll: Im half Mexican so I have 32 people living in my house...if they are cleared.... Im signing them all up today and we are going to be the Conquerclub Mexican Mafia

Re: Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat[pending]es

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:06 pm
by Evil Semp
epic0002 wrote:
jefjef wrote:g-ma - g-pa - dad - mom... whatever.

I, who sees multi's everywhere and in everyone, do not believe Moffat and barroland are multi (with each other)




Whatever :roll: Im half Mexican so I have 32 people living in my house...if they are cleared.... Im signing them all up today and we are going to be the Conquerclub Mexican Mafia


If who are cleared? The 32 people living in your house.

Re: Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat[pending]es

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:35 pm
by Evil Semp
At this time I tend to believe that they are family members. I also agree with JJ that he sees multi's in every corner but I don't think these are. Acheng, DeAnza, barroland and Moffat are CLEARED/

Re: Acheng, DeAnza, barroland, Moffat[pending]es

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:23 am
by epic0002
Evil Semp wrote:At this time I tend to believe that they are family members. I also agree with JJ that he sees multi's in every corner but I don't think these are. Acheng, DeAnza, barroland and Moffat are CLEARED/



Awesome.. just a heads up... all my family members in my house created accounts today!