Conquer Club

Accused:

WOLFZ71

The accused is suspected of

Severe Ratings Abuse

I have nothing against this player. Since 2009 we have played each other dozens of times. But he is using the ratings system to lash out. Yeah. Some of you do that. I'd rather you rant against me in the Ass Hat thread. But hey. You can't do that either.

Looks like 29 games into our renewed battling he had enough: Game 16532951 Again. His right to hate me. However...

Comments: It's pretty cut and dried. This player leaves some very irrational ratings as a vendetta when he looses. I think it's pretty funny that two (2) years ago I left him poor marks for his behaviour and after a few games upon my return a couple of months ago he asked me to change my poor rating to a better one: Game 16317743.

Foolish me.

My recommendation is: more meds (up to him), ratings ban (up to admin).

E.

dunno, lad. seems to be an even smattering of "goods" and "bads" in there. also, asshat opponent thread is alive and well, last time i checked...

riskllama wrote:dunno, lad. seems to be an even smattering of "goods" and "bads" in there. also, asshat opponent thread is alive and well, last time i checked...

Hehe. Cheers. I lost track of that thread.

Pretty clear to me that when the boy snaps he snaps. It's been a standard before that if you rate all highs and then all lows you are not using the system properly.

<shrug>

But? I actually don't give a shit.

E.

He's an idiot regardless.

This guy is a real problem. He keeps joining my games and then giving me 1 star across the board ratings. Usually when someone does that there's some altercation in chat, but he just gave those ratings without ever saying anything. I finally asked him what's up and his response--he doesn't like DBs.

He kept giving me the "backstabber" tag--after 1v1s.

the plot thickens...

A link to his ratings left page:

https://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?mode=ratings2&username=WOLFZ71

swang918 wrote:This guy is a real problem. He keeps joining my games and then giving me 1 star across the board ratings.

um, he can only rate you once. if he keeps adding tags to it, whatever... but he can only rate you once... you do not have multiple ratings from players for each game you play them in... just wanted to clear up that fallacy before anyone ran wild with it... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

Is there such a thing as 'Ratings Abuse' - ie. can it be reported and dealt with? ....or is it just something that can be moaned about here?

m1ndgames wrote:Is there such a thing as 'Ratings Abuse' - ie. can it be reported and dealt with? ....or is it just something that can be moaned about here?

And that? Is the question now isn't it?

E.

m1ndgames wrote:Is there such a thing as 'Ratings Abuse' - ie. can it be reported and dealt with? ....or is it just something that can be moaned about here?

Yes there is such a thing, it can be reported and dealt with. Happened before, many times.

Donelladan wrote:

m1ndgames wrote:Is there such a thing as 'Ratings Abuse' - ie. can it be reported and dealt with? ....or is it just something that can be moaned about here?

Yes there is such a thing, it can be reported and dealt with. Happened before, many times.

pay attention... that was hours ago... he already went and posted in the proper thread, adding information and evidence... come on, team CC, keep up with us...-Bj

Before (if) a warning is to be issued, upon checking so far, most of those 1 star rating he gave to those players actually did deadbeat or has merit. I agree that what he gave to you is questionable, but are there any more similar ratings?

king achilles wrote:Before (if) a warning is to be issued, upon checking so far, most of those 1 star rating he gave to those players actually did deadbeat or has merit. I agree that what he gave to you is questionable, but are there any more similar ratings?

Valid question. I believe there are others. But I'll have to check tomorrow.

Suspect ratings left for:

shoop76
swang918
igotaished
Sotan
morleyjoe

All one stars from wolf with tags like cheater, irrational, etc.

It looks very chronic to me.

elfish_lad wrote:Suspect ratings left for:

shoop76
swang918
igotaished
Sotan
morleyjoe

All one stars from wolf with tags like cheater, irrational, etc.

It looks very chronic to me.

Add me to that list.

-------He has been a poor sport for years...I foed him and so did NAClean99 for his poor sportsmanship... NA and I were having a bad day. Lashing out at each other in game chat. But we settled our beef(Have played many great games over the`years since). But soon found out our only foe back then was Wolfy...
-------I tried to check but all my games are gone to some new system. Which I will now take up in the GD...
-------But you can add ConfederateSS and NAClean99(I don't know if he plays anymore) to the list. Thanks to a new system change High Command. ....ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).

Thank you. He has been warned.

Cheers bud.

Frankly, I think ratings abuse C&A filings like this are BS. I have been in the same clan with wolf for a long time, and yes he sometimes gets upset.

But a persons ability to rank someone however they choose, for whatever reasons they deem as valid seems like a reasonable thing to allow. It is after all his opinion that is being asked for... But then again I'm not as familiar with the rules on this as the mod who is making the complaint... I don't see anything on the rules page about restrictions on how you rate people, nor do i see anything on the forum link found on the rules page. perhaps someone can post a link to where the rules say you can't give someone a 1star rating if they screw you out of a win? Or of any guidelines to how anyone's opinion is subject to being seen as abusive? How does him posting his opinion hurt anyone? It just 1 person giving a rating, and elf probably has 100's or 1000's of other rating to offset this, isn't that how the system is designed to work?

Never mind, I found it:

Ratings Abuse
If you are found guilty of Ratings Abuse---that is, rating your opponents unjustifiably, haphazardly, or systematically in a destructive or inappropriate manner (such as repeatedly giving out inaccurate ratings without evidence to justify your ratings), you will find yourself escalating on Ratings Vacation scale.

Ratings Abuse Infraction levels are as follows:
Warning
1 Month Ratings Vacation / Block
Permanent Ratings Vacation / Block

however this still seems ridiculous to me. here is a place to express your opinions on other players... oh wait, but only if you can justify and prove your opinion is correct. If you can't prove it, we will warn/ban you for having that opinion. I mean come-on guys...

You're exaggerating the matter. The most common kind of ratings abuse is always rating players that beat you badly. This is what WOLFZ does. He's a spiteful person, evidenced by his vindictive ratings and suiciding against me because he disagreed with one of my moves. Before your clan, mookie, he was in mine, though only briefly I might add.

Yeah he rated me bad once in a 1v1, then suicided me in a tournament some time ago.

Group Hug. The Black Jesus gives back rubs also, he can calm the situation. Im going to look at my Ratings now and follow up with a couple reports...

If you want to discuss ratings abuse, then start a topic in Conquer Club Discussions section of the forums.

If you have more relevant information to add to this case, PM King Achilles or myself

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