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Lancelot du Lac [tg]

Postby HardAttack on Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:28 am

Accused:

Lancelot du Lac



The accused are suspected of:

Other: Rating system abuse.



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Comments:
http://prntscr.com/uxvume

At the end of a speed game, the accused had left ratings in the above screenshot in the link.
Do i care ? Of course not.
However, i would like to lay this idiocy down here for awareness.
He missed a turn, i checked his online status, he did not show online, so i did not need to wall him to say speed game on, i do not have to is another matter.
Then he missed every turn, did not take a single turn but left me all 1 stars...

This is a rating system abuse without a doubt, however i do not ask for a punishment.
Feel free to tag this as closeds.

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Re: Lancelot du Lac

Postby riskllama on Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:29 am

ratings are stupid & pointless.
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Re: Lancelot du Lac

Postby HardAttack on Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:32 am

riskllama wrote:ratings are stupid & pointless.


i avoid playing games with players who has an avarage rating of lesser than 4.4.
it is stupid and pointless,
yes and no.
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Re: Lancelot du Lac

Postby jfm10 on Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:29 pm

You have played 6 games with him but years seperate this game and ratings from the other 5 games.
You rated Donelladan 1 stars in 2013 and holds today.
I never met that Donelladan but the one I have played I respect and admire.
Perhaps he remembers you from the past and rated you accordingly or everyone should have their right to opinion.
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Re: Lancelot du Lac

Postby HardAttack on Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:06 pm

jfm10 wrote:You have played 6 games with him but years seperate this game and ratings from the other 5 games.
You rated Donelladan 1 stars in 2013 and holds today.
I never met that Donelladan but the one I have played I respect and admire.
Perhaps he remembers you from the past and rated you accordingly or everyone should have their right to opinion.


Amazing explanation :lol:

Do you mean Lancelot is a tool for Don ?
What this has got to do with Don...
I never liked Don, we had flames years ago, and we left 1 stars rating mutually/reciprocally and not 7 years later :lol:

You made my day jfm10

O:)

I would like to give you some idea briefly m8, ratings are open for 7 days or something then it is locked, no more one can leave ratings to other. Have u ever thought why ?
Find your answer yourself.
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Re: Lancelot du Lac

Postby Kotaro on Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:11 pm

This is a rating system abuse without a doubt, however i do not ask for a punishment.
Feel free to tag this as closeds.


https://www.conquerclub.com/player.php? ... lot+du+Lac

1 1-star rating left since 5/27/2019; 1 rating does not equate abuse.

This is clearly a revenge post in C&A to bring flame to a players name; HardAttack should be warned for making a spam post with no merit.
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Re: Lancelot du Lac

Postby HardAttack on Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:17 pm

Kotaro wrote:
This is a rating system abuse without a doubt, however i do not ask for a punishment.
Feel free to tag this as closeds.


https://www.conquerclub.com/player.php? ... lot+du+Lac

1 1-star rating left since 5/27/2019; 1 rating does not equate abuse.

This is clearly a revenge post in C&A to bring flame to a players name; HardAttack should be warned for making a spam post with no merit.


explain Kotaro;
how come a player leave a rating if the player did not take a single turn in a game ?
how is this not an abuse ?
what am i missing here, help me pls, help me understand otherwise i am going to regard your every future posts as junk.
please explain/make sense how come a player leave a rating if the player did not take a single turn in a game


your words,
Kotaro wrote:1 1-star rating left since 5/27/2019; 1 rating does not equate abuse.

is this an official announcement, any link ? Please provide me.

also, i am sorry to announce,
a revenge post is not what i am doing here..
how did you come there makes me sad, and insults me....
i am going to foe you because of this prejudice, you dont even know me :(
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Re: Lancelot du Lac

Postby Kotaro on Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:38 pm

HardAttack wrote:
explain Kotaro;
how come a player leave a rating if the player did not take a single turn in a game ?
how is this not an abuse ?
what am i missing here, help me pls, help me understand otherwise i am going to regard your every future posts as junk.
please explain/make sense how come a player leave a rating if the player did not take a single turn in a game


your words,
Kotaro wrote:1 1-star rating left since 5/27/2019; 1 rating does not equate abuse.

is this an official announcement, any link ? Please provide me.

also, i am sorry to announce,
a revenge post is not what i am doing here..
how did you come there makes me sad, i am going to foe you because of this prejudice, you dont even know me :(


People are allowed to leave whatever ratings they feel are deserved, but in the past decisions by KA, a user needs to leave 5 or more ratings that weren't deserved to get a warning.

I couldn't care less how you regard my posts; you literally made a post for no reason, and asked that it immediately be closed, in order to bring shade to someone.
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Re: Lancelot du Lac

Postby riskllama on Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:42 pm

LOL, Kotaro wins this thread.
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Re: Lancelot du Lac

Postby HardAttack on Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:45 pm

Kotaro wrote:
HardAttack wrote:
explain Kotaro;
how come a player leave a rating if the player did not take a single turn in a game ?
how is this not an abuse ?
what am i missing here, help me pls, help me understand otherwise i am going to regard your every future posts as junk.
please explain/make sense how come a player leave a rating if the player did not take a single turn in a game


your words,
Kotaro wrote:1 1-star rating left since 5/27/2019; 1 rating does not equate abuse.

is this an official announcement, any link ? Please provide me.

also, i am sorry to announce,
a revenge post is not what i am doing here..
how did you come there makes me sad, i am going to foe you because of this prejudice, you dont even know me :(


People are allowed to leave whatever ratings they feel are deserved, but in the past decisions by KA, a user needs to leave 5 or more ratings that weren't deserved to get a warning.

I couldn't care less how you regard my posts; you literally made a post for no reason, and asked that it immediately be closed, in order to bring shade to someone.


Have not i got to right to advertise someone who leaves ratings, poor ratings based on nothing ?
Doesnt he deserve to be put shade on him in this case ?
Put yourself in my shoes, what have i done wrong to deserve it.
I do not intend to cause him take punisment is why i called to add in closeds, but of course i like to advertise (or with ur words, shade) such an unfair, non ethic, non sportsmanship behaviour.
If the CA forum is not the right place, i am sorry. If this is not regarded as an abuse officially, i respect and accept it, but it is an abuse in my book.

Maybe it is not clear,
Once again, my problem is not recieving 1 stars from a player, i have recieved 1 stars lots of times in all 10k games back in years and never reported anyone cos of it.
my problem is getting ratings from a player who never showed in the game and took a single turn.
I need an explanation how did he come up with the ratings he left, what did he base on to lelave ratings since he did not take a single turn, no chat, zip zero. This is what i call to be an abusive use of a game property no matter what and how it is regarded by community.
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Re: Lancelot du Lac

Postby Nut Shot Scott on Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:22 pm

:lol: :lol:
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Re: Lancelot du Lac [tg]

Postby Jdsizzleslice on Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:39 am

https://www.conquerclub.com/player.php? ... lot+du+Lac

The first 5 pages of 47 of his most recent ratings show him leaving only 5 people with less than 5 stars.

That's 5/250 ratings (0.0002%) with less than a perfect 5 stars across the board.

For general ratings abuse criterion, you need a consistent pattern of rating a large number of people with a low rating.

This is not happening here.
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Re: Lancelot du Lac

Postby jfm10 on Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:00 am

HardAttack wrote:
jfm10 wrote:You have played 6 games with him but years seperate this game and ratings from the other 5 games.
You rated Donelladan 1 stars in 2013 and holds today.
I never met that Donelladan but the one I have played I respect and admire.
Perhaps he remembers you from the past and rated you accordingly or everyone should have their right to opinion.


Amazing explanation :lol:

Do you mean Lancelot is a tool for Don ?
What this has got to do with Don...
I never liked Don, we had flames years ago, and we left 1 stars rating mutually/reciprocally and not 7 years later :lol:

You made my day jfm10

O:)

I would like to give you some idea briefly m8, ratings are open for 7 days or something then it is locked, no more one can leave ratings to other. Have u ever thought why ?
Find your answer yourself.



Foe and move on is recommendation and rate accordingly.
you cant rate immediately cause the game has been archived
you will have to play him again and it may take 7 years :lol:
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Re: Lancelot du Lac [tg]

Postby HardAttack on Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:08 am

Jdsizzleslice wrote:https://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?mode=ratings2&username=Lancelot+du+Lac

The first 5 pages of 47 of his most recent ratings show him leaving only 5 people with less than 5 stars.

That's 5/250 ratings (0.0002%) with less than a perfect 5 stars across the board.

For general ratings abuse criterion, you need a consistent pattern of rating a large number of people with a low rating.

This is not happening here.


Jdsizzleslice,
from the statictical point of view i agree with you,
from the nature for why players leave ratings over each other point of view, my point still stands.

I do not want to show to be a source of irritation, but allow me ask you a question.

You create a game, someone joins, then for some reason you did not take a single turn, missed em all, then opponent wins the game.
Would you rate your oppnent then ?
Attitude 1 star, no chat in game chat, no PMs no wall messages, then what is your motive or reason for it.
Would you rate him 1 star for game play while you did not even take a turn, how do you come there ?
And fair play, :shock:

This is a very insignificant report...
Nevermind, i am ok with his ratings, lets move on.
We can be cool and nice over each other, can not we ?
I will foe him, and keep enjoying my games;

Have fun everyone.

Peace O:)


jfm10 wrote:
HardAttack wrote:
jfm10 wrote:You have played 6 games with him but years seperate this game and ratings from the other 5 games.
You rated Donelladan 1 stars in 2013 and holds today.
I never met that Donelladan but the one I have played I respect and admire.
Perhaps he remembers you from the past and rated you accordingly or everyone should have their right to opinion.


Amazing explanation :lol:

Do you mean Lancelot is a tool for Don ?
What this has got to do with Don...
I never liked Don, we had flames years ago, and we left 1 stars rating mutually/reciprocally and not 7 years later :lol:

You made my day jfm10

O:)

I would like to give you some idea briefly m8, ratings are open for 7 days or something then it is locked, no more one can leave ratings to other. Have u ever thought why ?
Find your answer yourself.



Foe and move on is recommendation and rate accordingly.
you cant rate immediately cause the game has been archived
you will have to play him again and it may take 7 years :lol:


Thank you jfm10

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Re: Lancelot du Lac [tg]

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:23 am

In my defense I would just say.

I have a golden rule, I rate each player with the maximum number of stars. Except when I find his behavior very irritating and that is rare (cf. my ratings left https://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?mode=ratings2&username=Lancelot+du+Lac).

When I join a speed game and the opponent misses his turns, I warn him on his wall, it's a minimum fair-play.

Looks like you came just to take points being afraid to face me. I understand I am better.

My status was not online ... This is an option that allows the site to hide its status. =D>

Firt and last message bye :-$
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Re: Lancelot du Lac [tg]

Postby Extreme Ways on Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:47 am

Lancelot du Lac wrote:In my defense I would just say.

I have a golden rule, I rate each player with the maximum number of stars. Except when I find his behavior very irritating and that is rare (cf. my ratings left https://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?mode=ratings2&username=Lancelot+du+Lac).

When I join a speed game and the opponent misses his turns, I warn him on his wall, it's a minimum fair-play.

Looks like you came just to take points being afraid to face me. I understand I am better.

My status was not online ... This is an option that allows the site to hide its status. =D>

Firt and last message bye :-$

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HardAttack may not be aware of the 'hide online status' thing. He himself shows his online status, I don't find it that much of a reach to think that a '-' means 'online now'. I don't think that HardAttack intends to gain points this way. Neither do I think that he is afraid of you, I think both of these are absurd takes.

But the case has no case, if you want to put someone on blast it's probably best to post in GD under the guise of 'is it ok to...', else it'll maybe be removed for personal attacks/flaming.
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Re: Lancelot du Lac [tg]

Postby HardAttack on Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:24 am

@EW, you are a honest gentleman, a positive show/vibe everyday since then. O:)

Thank you
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Re: Lancelot du Lac [tg]

Postby HardAttack on Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:04 am

Although the accused's reasoning for leaving ratings against a player whom he never played a game/rolled a dice against remains strange and tommyrot to me, he came here, voiced it over, and stood behind his act/reasoning which i respect.
I would like to withdraw my complaint report in the OP pls, which is an insignificant infraction now on in my book.
I am sorry over 3rd parties if i made your life discomfortable, bugged you, wasted ur times.

Have a good one everyone.
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Re: Lancelot du Lac [tg]

Postby TeeGee on Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:20 am

HardAttack wrote:Although the accused's reasoning for leaving ratings against a player whom he never played a game/rolled a dice against remains strange and tommyrot to me, he came here, voiced it over, and stood behind his act/reasoning which i respect.
I would like to withdraw my complaint report in the OP pls, which is an insignificant infraction now on in my book.
I am sorry over 3rd parties if i made your life discomfortable, bugged you, wasted ur times.

Have a good one everyone.


I'm actually going to mark this as NOTED

Leaving 1 star across all 3 fields here is not an honest use of the rating system, however it is not common for this player to do this and with this I am happy to close the investigation for now.
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