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I have been thinking to open this forum for a while.
There is a group of Croatian players, who mostly play with each other freestyle games. EVERY time I play with them (freestyle), I lose. Why? Because every single time they play at the same time, swap armies back and fourth, and it's impossible to challenge them. Maybe they are just very cunning, but they also play close to the end of the 24 hour timer so I lose my turn often. Really, no matter how fair I play, there is nothing I can do about it.

Look at the games: 67937, 676611

Look at the dates some of them joined. 23 August, 23 August, 27 August,

This case is against: Dlakavi, Rogi, Eksploziv, Karlo Veliki, Leone, Kapetan Vujo, Vujo, (similarities in names).

Also look at some of their other games. Again, they very often play games together, and always at the same time. They also all speak English... quite similarly (very good english).

Now... you can call me a whiner, but I smell a RAT. I have played many games on here, and I have never encountered that EVERYONE from one country plays the same way, with same people, at the same time, and speaks the same.

Yes, I have encountered simmiliar problems with college "buds" that play at the same time in the same room.

Its called cheating.

I put them on ignore list.

but these guys look very multi to me too.

chetnik wrote:I have been thinking to open this forum for a while.
There is a group of Croatian players, who mostly play with each other freestyle games. EVERY time I play with them (freestyle), I lose. Why? Because every single time they play at the same time, swap armies back and fourth, and it's impossible to challenge them. Maybe they are just very cunning, but they also play close to the end of the 24 hour timer so I lose my turn often. Really, no matter how fair I play, there is nothing I can do about it.

Now... you can call me a whiner, but I smell a RAT. I have played many games on here, and I have never encountered that EVERYONE from one country plays the same way, with same people, at the same time, and speaks the same.

To begin with, fill out the form. It makes the mods' jobs easier.

Then. Well. In general, that is how you play triples freestyle. I have a game with the old BW guard where we entered a game, came up with a plan and by going one and one, swapping armies back and forth, we killed of one of our three opponents in round 1. Good team play requires playing at the same time, fortifying each other. So in this sense, your case is weak. (Complaining about such a thing only borders on the line of stupidity.)

However, with that said. You may have a point here about smelling a rat.

Looking at game no 67937
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=67937

The three guys in there doesn't really move at the same time. Between each swap there tends to be some time dealy. That could indicate someone flying solo, having to switch accounts between each turn.

Thats is exactly the idea behind freestyle. It isn't cheating, its called team work. I'm tired of everyone whining about losing to a good freestyle team. If you don't like it, go play sequential.

It's a triples game. God almighty.

alstergren wrote:

chetnik wrote:I have been thinking to open this forum for a while.
There is a group of Croatian players, who mostly play with each other freestyle games. EVERY time I play with them (freestyle), I lose. Why? Because every single time they play at the same time, swap armies back and fourth, and it's impossible to challenge them. Maybe they are just very cunning, but they also play close to the end of the 24 hour timer so I lose my turn often. Really, no matter how fair I play, there is nothing I can do about it.

Now... you can call me a whiner, but I smell a RAT. I have played many games on here, and I have never encountered that EVERYONE from one country plays the same way, with same people, at the same time, and speaks the same.

In general, that is how you play triples freestyle. I

no its not. freestyle just brings in the "surprise" factor. Its not meant for players to set around and hold hands through each turn.

Xtra got raped by the site, that is why she is mad.

Psilocbin wrote:Xtra got raped by the site, that is why she is mad.

look i dont have time to play with 2 other "buds" at the same time, in the same room, on the same bed together.

I dont cheat, and just look what the "bud" sad on my sig.

"get used to cheaters, it happens all the time." pure BS

xtratabasco wrote:no its not. freestyle just brings in the "surprise" factor. Its not meant for players to set around and hold hands through each turn.

LOL. If that's how you wanna put it. But yes, it is. If you play a team game, you're suppose to play as a team, not as three individuals. Are you mad?

alstergren wrote:

xtratabasco wrote:no its not. freestyle just brings in the "surprise" factor. Its not meant for players to set around and hold hands through each turn.

LOL. If that's how you wanna put it. But yes, it is. If you play a team game, you're suppose to play as a team, not as three individuals. Are you mad?

no, sorry your wrong again.

just because its freesytle dont mean you arent playing as a team.

Cheaters need each other to fort and "help" at the same time to win.

its that simple.



I play a hellofalot of freestyle and very few players play at the same time, I just put them on ignore and play with non-cheaters who enjoy the surprises of freestyle without the cheaters who call each other on the phone and decide when to play their turns.

xtratabasco wrote:no, sorry your wrong again.

just because its freesytle dont mean you arent playing as a team.

Cheaters need each other to fort and "help" at the same time to win.

its that simple.

Hahaha!!! Have you even checked the game? It's a freestyle game alright. But also a triples game. A team game. That means that one are playing, ideally, as a team. Pwnd.

alstergren wrote:

xtratabasco wrote:no, sorry your wrong again.

just because its freesytle dont mean you arent playing as a team.

Cheaters need each other to fort and "help" at the same time to win.

its that simple.

Hahaha!!! Have you even checked the game? It's a freestyle game alright. But also a triples game. A team game. That means that one are playing, ideally, as a team. Pwnd.

LOL chuckles


I understand about 3 player games and freestyle, just go look at what im playing right now bozo.












pawnd...you and J-cunt

I think you are diverging from the discussion.

We KNOW what freestyle is, we KNOW what is a 'fair' loss. But it is NOT fair to lose to a team that:
-waits until the timer is almost up, so I lose my turn

Secondly, I am talking about all the factors, not just one freestyle game that is lost. In other words, I want you to look at:
-their join dates
-their sequence of play
-the pattern that they NEVER miss turns (think about this way, when you call your friends to play at the same time as you, does it ever happen that they don't pick up the phone? In this case, no. I can understand a real-time game, or playing at the same time few times, but I cannot understand ALL CROATIANS, playing this way. I just find it very odd, that Croatia which is a small country with 1 university, has all players sitting in one dorm. Give me a break.

What is the way to check their ips, passwords?

chetnik wrote:I think you are diverging from the discussion.

We KNOW what freestyle is, we KNOW what is a 'fair' loss. But it is NOT fair to lose to a team that:
-waits until the timer is almost up, so I lose my turn

Secondly, I am talking about all the factors, not just one freestyle game that is lost. In other words, I want you to look at:
-their join dates
-their sequence of play
-the pattern that they NEVER miss turns (think about this way, when you call your friends to play at the same time as you, does it ever happen that they don't pick up the phone? In this case, no. I can understand a real-time game, or playing at the same time few times, but I cannot understand ALL CROATIANS, playing this way. I just find it very odd, that Croatia which is a small country with 1 university, has all players sitting in one dorm. Give me a break.

What is the way to check their ips, passwords?

I agree with you, but there are those who will always side with the cheaters.

Subject line: Dlakavi, Rogi, Eksploziv, Karlo Veliki, Leone, Kapetan Vujo, Vujo

These are suspected Multis

Suspect users: Dlakavi, Rogi, Eksploziv, Karlo Veliki, Leone, Kapetan Vujo, Vujo

Game number: 67937, 676611

Comments: read the discussion


Chetnik

Xtra your sig proves nothing but the truth. I don't know why you boast about it, if anything it goes against your theory. I used to play Halo 2 online and I got raped by game modders all the time. Cheating, it happens, you my friend have to accept it as part of life. Cheating or not, it happened and you lost in game and in arguments.


Have a nice life. Loser.

xtratabasco wrote:

alstergren wrote:

xtratabasco wrote:no, sorry your wrong again.

just because its freesytle dont mean you arent playing as a team.

Cheaters need each other to fort and "help" at the same time to win.

its that simple.

Hahaha!!! Have you even checked the game? It's a freestyle game alright. But also a triples game. A team game. That means that one are playing, ideally, as a team. Pwnd.

LOL chuckles


I understand about 3 player games and freestyle, just go look at what im playing right now bozo.












pawnd...you and J-cunt

You obviously is a complete idiot then. This thread is about a Croatian freestyle team. Not your games. Get over your it you pawnd cunt.

OH MY GOD, do you really beleive to chetnik??? do you know what does mean name "chetnik"? that is serbian group of people who hate every croatian guys, serbian hate croatian, and he has lost some games and now he complains,

You know, it is very common to play any game with my colleges from school at same time and same game... etc.... c

There are not so much croatian guys, so when i see my flag i am very happy to see someone is playing from croatia not only me, so i msged them that i want to play with them one game... so don't make any problems ... this all from stupid chetnik -majku ti jeben cetnicku , is one big bullshit...

And one more thing to add, so what if they or him waits untill the clock is almost gone, it is legal.... read the f.king rules, you need a little bit more brain to know that, and we are small country but when i play some game i never play it alone, i always invite my friends to do it too, like i did,
yesterday... i invited 2-3 friends to play this good game, because i like it much...

Bijo wrote:OH MY GOD, do you really beleive to chetnik??? do you know what does mean name "chetnik"? that is serbian group of people who hate every croatian guys

wtf you talking about, first learn history
dont lie people and talk stupid story

and Serbia dont have group people who hate Croatian, all Serbs hate coatian, I dont see why not if you forgot croatian kill more then 500 000 serbs in Jasenovac

and this is a game if you dont know, and I dont see point of your stupid answer, who gives a f*ck that I love somebody or not

Bijo wrote:And one more thing to add, so what if they or him waits untill the clock is almost gone, it is legal.... read the f.king rules

True. That's just whining on his part, looking at the games. Dunno what he thinks. If he plays triples not knowing and coordinating with his team mates, he's bound to loose against a good team.

And with respect to Croatia - you guys rock. Good to see Croatians in here!

vladablok9a wrote:

Bijo wrote:OH MY GOD, do you really beleive to chetnik??? do you know what does mean name "chetnik"? that is serbian group of people who hate every croatian guys

wtf you talking about, first learn history
dont lie people and talk stupid story

and Serbia dont have group people who hate Croatian, all Serbs hate coatian, I dont see why not if you forgot croatian kill more then 500 000 serbs in Jasenovac

and this is a game if you dont know, and I dont see point of your stupid answer, who gives a f*ck that I love somebody or not

you are really pathetic, we killed 500 000 ? LOOL why then Serbia has more then 100 generals who are in HAAG and are quilty, serbia attacked croatia and everyone knows that , you always wanted big serbia, and now everyone wants his own country, and it's the matter of time when serbia will collapse, kosovo in near future will gain his own country, and i am fcking glad of it, you attacked them too when they wanted freedom, and america attacked you because of that, you pathetic dogs, i still have flame in my eyes when someone is bullshiting about holy thing of mine, my flag
FREEEDOM FOREVER, you can always attack us, but we have brave hearts and will always defeat you attackers, so dont tell me about history moron jerk, and never say that again, if i know you in real i would kill you for saying that

and this is a game if you dont know, and I dont see point of your stupid answer, who gives a f*ck that I love somebody or not[/quote]

and you see that's the thing that you can't understand, there are only few of us, but we stick together, that's what make us strong

chetnik wrote:I have been thinking to open this forum for a while.
There is a group of Croatian players, who mostly play with each other freestyle games. EVERY time I play with them (freestyle), I lose. Why? Because every single time they play at the same time, swap armies back and fourth, and it's impossible to challenge them. Maybe they are just very cunning, but they also play close to the end of the 24 hour timer so I lose my turn often. Really, no matter how fair I play, there is nothing I can do about it.

Look at the games: 67937, 676611

Look at the dates some of them joined. 23 August, 23 August, 27 August,

This case is against: Dlakavi, Rogi, Eksploziv, Karlo Veliki, Leone, Kapetan Vujo, Vujo, (similarities in names).

Also look at some of their other games. Again, they very often play games together, and always at the same time. They also all speak English... quite similarly (very good english).

Now... you can call me a whiner, but I smell a RAT. I have played many games on here, and I have never encountered that EVERYONE from one country plays the same way, with same people, at the same time, and speaks the same.

I must tell you all something.
Do you knows what does mean chetnik it is the same like name Nazzi in 2nd world war and his avatar is like someone put Hitler pic, so i thing administrator must delete all chetnic account!
On his pic is Draza Mihajlovic and he was one of worst criminals and killers in world, he killed more people then Hitler.
Long live Croatia! U BOJ U BOJ ZA NAROD SVOJ

Feel free to debate national pride in the Clubhouse. For now, I'm locking this until a MH can look it over.