Conquer Club

Subject line: <sky t


These are suspected Multis

Suspect users: skyt, danbemp, and qstupid

Game number: any of their games. they play almost solely together
too many games to list

Comments: every game i see that they play together, they play seconds apart, i joined three games against them to check it out! it doesnt vary, then i looked at all of their other games, and i still think it is fishy.


ronc8649

ronc8649 wrote:Subject line: <sky t


These are suspected Multis

Suspect users: skyt, danbemp, and qstupid

Game number: any of their games. they play almost solely together
too many games to list

Comments: every game i see that they play together, they play seconds apart, i joined three games against them to check it out! it doesnt vary, then i looked at all of their other games, and i still think it is fishy.


ronc8649

Oh yeah, these guys are definitely multis'.
They even upgraded to premium because of it, and play TRIPLES together.
By the way, incase you haven't gotten the picture over the last 1400 points you've gained, some triples teams like to play their turns at the same time..
part of the trick of freestyle.

john1099 wrote:

ronc8649 wrote:Subject line: <sky t


These are suspected Multis

Suspect users: skyt, danbemp, and qstupid

Game number: any of their games. they play almost solely together
too many games to list

Comments: every game i see that they play together, they play seconds apart, i joined three games against them to check it out! it doesnt vary, then i looked at all of their other games, and i still think it is fishy.


ronc8649

Oh yeah, these guys are definitely multis'.
They even upgraded to premium because of it, and play TRIPLES together.
By the way, incase you haven't gotten the picture over the last 1400 points you've gained, some triples teams like to play their turns at the same time..
part of the trick of freestyle.

Not only do they try to take turns at the same time-- they take turns for each other at the same time........another trick

While it appears skyt, danbemp, and qstupid know each other, they are cleared of being multiple accounts but blocked from playing together.

first of all, i think i have already made it very clear in public that qstupid is my real life girlfriend, and danbemp is my real life roommate, dan joined the site first and he made me interested in cc in march or april, then i convinced my girlfriend to play with me over the summer, we are not multis and yes, we do take turns for each other from time to time, we take advantage of knowing each other in real life and play triples so we can communicate better than the other team, apparently some dickheads (not to mention who) got jealous at our point gains and decided to make an ass out of me.

all 3 of us are college students from stony brook university and my girlfriend just lives one building away from mine. if u want a profile check, go on facebook and search for "xiaoyu zhang" "dan bemporad" and "si pei lin"

another evidence i can provide is private games i played with qstupid, 862735 and 680495, in both games i was winning till qstupid started doing her girly begs and i gave the game to her.

also check the diverse games we play other than triples. qstupid loves assassin games, and she always play 1v1 with ppl with Sergeants and Corporals while i only play 1v1 with absoult noobs cuz i "care" about my points more than she does.

i appeal for an unblock and i hope u admins really look into the evidences i provided.

ps, a large part of my gf's motivation of playing comes from me, so if we cannot play together, it is likely that she will quit the game, and if she does so, i would find a perfect good reason to quit too.

Thank you for that explanation. You usually play team games and are teammates in it. Your accounts are unblocked and we strongly advise you to restrict yourselves in playing team games (of course, you must be teammates only) and do not enter open standard games together.

tx very much, and we will never play standard with each other in against other players

Im not jealous of your points mate but I daresay its the freestyle triples games that some might resent, 3 people on a team sitting together have a huge huge advantage. Dont blame you for exploiting the situation but lets face it it is a cheap way to get points and you are a good enough player not to have to do it.

nobody is jealous of your points! congrats on that!

you have been playing triples freestyle games by yourself! using your girlfriend and your roommate as an excuse! that is no excuse, you might as well play with only your username skyt! if you look at your games, there is no way that is not you playing nearly every turn for your team! not on occasion taking someone elses turn. but almost every turn.

we all have lives. we all have someone that takes our turns when we are not here. but we dont abuse cc's guidelines like you have.

ronc8649 wrote:nobody is jealous of your points! congrats on that!

you have been playing triples freestyle games by yourself! using your girlfriend and your roommate as an excuse! that is no excuse, you might as well play with only your username skyt! if you look at your games, there is no way that is not you playing nearly every turn for your team! not on occasion taking someone elses turn. but almost every turn.

we all have lives. we all have someone that takes our turns when we are not here. but we dont abuse cc's guidelines like you have.

then go ahead and explain to me why do i purposely lose to qstupid's account by attacking all the neutrals in the 2 games we played? i dont have time and energy to play everything in all 3 accounts, and if you really looked into the games, u will see the different style between the 3 of us, i always like to go for the 2 bonus at the same time, while sometimes they want secure asia first then expand slowly from that. stop judging people you have no idea of and seriously, i treated u as a friend, and trusted u, and totally did not expect the complaint coming from u.

and u claim u joined 3 of the games to investigate, u did not play with me dan and pei, u played with me pei and dupa, u want to know how we play, come to long island and ill be happy to invite u over to watch HOW WE PLAY

comic boy wrote:Im not jealous of your points mate but I daresay its the freestyle triples games that some might resent, 3 people on a team sitting together have a huge huge advantage. Dont blame you for exploiting the situation but lets face it it is a cheap way to get points and you are a good enough player not to have to do it.

we gained about 140 points from the first 20 games we made (winning 190 and lost about 50 from one game), and yes, i admit it is a cheap way to gain points, but if you take a look at yosevuk's games, he gathered his points by playing double freestyle, which is not much difference from what we are doing, we accept invitations from private games also if you take a look at what games we are playing now, but when we make games, it will be triple freestyle or if we are too busy to play freesytle (like during finals week), we play sequential

Its nothing personal Sky, I have posted before that Yosevuk will never be considered by me and others as a great player because of the way he got his points. To be honest once the concept of speed games is enlarged to include variable play times I can see no point in continuing with freestyle games at all.

sky........i considered you a friend on cc as well. but there are certain things that i dont stand for.

i have never falsely accused someone of anything in cc. i knew you and your girlfriend and your roommate play cc. but i researched all of your games. i thoroughly researched everything about this situation. i didnt make a quick decision to post this. this post perplexed me, but i thought it needed to be done.

no matter what you say about the different games you guys play in, it still does not explain the timing of all of your turns in ALL of your freestyle triples games. you might play seperate games with each other, and your girlfriend probably takes her turns in those games. but you take all of her turns in your team games.

there is no way you all sit in front of the same computer at the same time in the same room around the same desk going through cc all night every night. if you did, you are a real loser.

people need to know what they go up against. if i could start 50 games, and play every turn, i wouldnt lose many either. nobody on cc would for that matter that has a semi decent mind for risk.

nobody tried to make an ass out of you! but you also need to make smarter decisions on the types of games you choose here.

i dont know how the ip check works and how much would it detect, but you can ask the admins to check our ip and see if they are the same everytime, as i said earilier, we DO NOT ALWAYS play together, sometimes its just the two of us, when im with my gf, i play with her, and take turn for dan, and when im in my room, i play with my roommate and play turn for my gf, and when 3 of us are all together, (which happens a lot) we all play togehter, we use at least 2 computers to play everytime, so if the ip check can dectect difference between computers, that will work out, and i do want an apology if it is proven u are wrong.

As far as the ip address are concerned, all I can say is - yes, the accounts involved do have a lot of similarities but there are also instances in their file that this information(among others) are inconsistent with one another. If the people involved were able to hand out an explanation that coincides with the data at hand, then consideration is a possibility, and in this case, they did just that.

im not a big computer person but each of us have an laptop, and from time to time, we play in the school's computer lab, my roommate's computer and mine are connected to the same router and when my gf come over, she also joins the same router, also, theres times when i am home or my girlfriend is home, then we would use our desktop comptuers at home, which should only appears on some weekends. and during the summer, my gf and i lived together in another appartment, so that is another possible ip address. that's all i can think of for now

comic boy wrote:Its nothing personal Sky, I have posted before that Yosevuk will never be considered by me and others as a great player because of the way he got his points. To be honest once the concept of speed games is enlarged to include variable play times I can see no point in continuing with freestyle games at all.

I partially agree with this...getting the majority of points through freestyle triples, stacks the deck so heavily, they really do become worthless...there is no way to lose them, and therefore are somewhat irrelevant...not to say it says anything about skill of the player...

however, I do think freestyle will still have a place...simultaneously playing makes a unique game, and can be much more fun than just a sequential game, speed or not

There's nothing inherently wrong with only playing freestyle trips and winning a bunch...I myself just wouldnt bother, because its a foregone conclusion that Ill win a bunch, and see no point in playing them out...sure, id probably get my little colonels hat, but what would it be worth?

Again, Im not knocking those who play those games...if its fun and legal, go for it...

You make a fair point Fitz and I acknowledge that there are a ton of players who enjoy freestyle for its unique gameplay. Unfortunately it does throw up these loopholes that allow certain people to steal points in triples and 1 v1 games which makes a mockery of both fair play and the scoreboard.

not only does it make a mockery of cc! it also leads to skepticism! i still dont believe the guy! as much as he says they all play their turns. i have just not seen one instance given in a triples game where their turns are at the same time, or 1 or 2 secs apart. that is impossible! if they all have seperate computers like he claims, that would have definitely happened in over 100 games!

ronc im not sure if you have read what i said for about the 2348423 times, we play together, and yes, we do not play triples we dont have to, we see each other everyday and we dont have to play the turns while each other isnt around, and what u pointed out about we play 1-2 seconds apart isnt even a point, it matches my explanation, and is a supporting evidence of what i said, want to prove me wrong? come to long island and watch me play,

and btw, no one cares whether u believe me or not

comic boy wrote:You make a fair point Fitz and I acknowledge that there are a ton of players who enjoy freestyle for its unique gameplay. Unfortunately it does throw up these loopholes that allow certain people to steal points in triples and 1 v1 games which makes a mockery of both fair play and the scoreboard.

Yes, without a doubt it makes using the score as the sole means of gauging skill useless

lol xiao, since when have u become sad enough to argue with someone about a game over the internet?

Danbemp wrote:lol xiao, since when have u become sad enough to argue with someone about a game over the internet?

Not quite as sad as playing one sided games simply to get some internet game points

comic boy wrote:You make a fair point Fitz and I acknowledge that there are a ton of players who enjoy freestyle for its unique gameplay. Unfortunately it does throw up these loopholes that allow certain people to steal points in triples and 1 v1 games which makes a mockery of both fair play and the scoreboard.

quite agree with this, but then most people know the scoreboard means very little for the most part. i think its a little unfair to single out skyt for abusing the system because it has become part of cc and almost not considered abuse anymore. avoid freestyle like the plague i say.