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wrongwayrebekah & princessdella [noted]

PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:30 pm
by Parzival
These are suspected of a Secret Alliance

Suspect Users: wrongwayrebekah, princessdella

Game 940938

Comments: Throughout this game, members "wrongwayrebekah" and "princessdella" have consistently engaged in minimal efforts against each other, ignoring wide open opportunities to gain significant territory with little risk, while pursuing other, more heavily protected opponents. That's fine with me if they had openly declared such an alliance in the chat. Yet neither has once posted anything in the chat, even after questions. I suspect that private communication or pre-game planning has gone on in violation of Conquer Club's stated rules. Please take a look at this game and give me an assessment. If I am wrong, I will accept that. But it looks fishy to me.

Example: On her last move, wrongwayrebekah (green) invaded North America with over 46 armies in the face of no opposition from princessdella (yellow), yet stopped without pursuing the continent, which could have easily been secured. In the previous turn, princessdella (yellow), with 30 armies on Brazil, ignored Africa, held by wrongwayrebekah (green) with only 1 army on each territory— and with the only threatening force of green's being 11 armies in Southern Europe. Instead, yellow took most of North America and invaded Asia (through a protecting force of 13 armies), marching down to Siam— yet ignored 38 armies of green located on Greenland, not bothering to significantly protect against these in any real way. Neither of these moves make any sense to me unless the two are in collusion, yet again, no such alliance has been stated in the chat.

I would like an independent judgment on this matter.

Parzival

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:29 am
by king achilles
I hate to leave a comment about the game and I would like to give the benefit of the doubt to the players involved. Since you are the only other player left in this game and you suspect a secret alliance between wrongwayrebekah and princessdella, then feel free to leave a feedback about it supported with facts from the game. We have taken note of this for any possible similar reports that may involve the same players.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:06 am
by Parzival
Thank you for your attention.

I can't fault your observation about my being the only other player remaining in the game; however, I noticed the odd progress of this game very early on while there were still four players. Other than an initial action to secure Africa and South America, respectively, green and yellow very quickly began to ignore each other. While an alliance between green and yellow makes sense given their respective locations, as I pointed out no such alliance has been stated, and the two players continue to ignore opportunities to severely damage each other and secure greater territory, while leaving significant territory unprotected against the other— most notably, both Africa and North America. That both players would employ the same strategy independently seems odd.

But again, thank you for your observations, and I appreciate your attention to the progress of this game.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:21 am
by Parzival
For the record:

I have just offered deals in the chat to both Green and Yellow which, if honored, would allow them each to claim an additional continent uncontested and unthreatened by me. I have done so both for game purposes (the deals do protect and benefit me) and to test their alliance, should it exist.

As it stands now: Green has 56 armies on Alaska. I have 39 on Kamchatka. Green's odds of defeating me outright are virtually nil, yet North America is wide open for conquest. I have offered to leave Green alone in Alaska to secure North America for herself. If Green attacks me with this deal on the table, instead of securing North America, as far as I am concerned the secret alliance will have been proven. Stated for the record.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:02 am
by cfactory
For what it's worth; I put wrongwayrebessa in my ignore list after one of my very first games because it seemed so obvious that she was playing with a secret alliance. I was too new to be so bold as to complain, but I knew I didn't want to play her again. I no longer have that game in my history (that I know how to access) so I can't give a reference #.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:13 am
by king achilles
cfactory
You may be referring to your game 1001740? If so, then you suspect wrongwayrebessa of having a secret alliance with another different player? These allegations against wrongwayrebessa maybe true or not, but unless we see a pattern with the same players, then do consider making use of your Ignore List option anytime.