Conquer Club

These are suspected Multis/Secret Alliance

Suspect users: jsmith72 and gloman55

Game number: 1462727,1466772,1473170,1473527,1480998,1484803,1545845,1546575,1565719,1567441,1571760,1581540,1587372,1587375,1587611,1594563,1595130,1595183,1595200,1641432,1642829,1650793,1681786,1732627,1832984

Comments: I suspected these guys for awhile but have planty of proof now. I checked all of their games together and look how many times in doodle earth assasin games they kill eachothers targets or help kill eachothers targets. Now these are just the assasin games they also play lots of other games together and play as partners in doubles games. They are cheating for sure. They are either the same person or they work together. Now the last time I caught somebody cheating they were just banned from playing together. I think with the amount of games these two cheated in they need to be banned from playing together and a score reset. There is 25 doodle earth games alone. That is just what I can proove from the logs. Not to mention what I could'nt proove.
Please look into this asap. They need to be stopped.

OOGA BOOGA The unofficial multi-hunter.

I highly doubt a score reset is in order, I think that has only happened a handful of times.

As for them being the same people, you've got that wrong. They are most definitely different people, as I've interacted with them countless times as both a Tournament Organizer and Director.

As for a Secret Alliance....could be, I don't know anything about those though, and they are pretty hard to pin down entirely.

Theyr are for sure cheating no matter what you say. I already caught maximvs, tainter, and my name is mic doing the same thing. This is a very easy case to prove. I mean 25 different games where they attack eachothers targets or take out eachothers targets is too many to be considered an accident. They cheat plain and simple. A score reset is well deserved. I got my score reset for the same thing just not even close to as many times. I was the one who came forward and turned myself in. Why should'nt they get a score reset?? Read the game logs. They cheated in 25 games. That can easily be seen by anyone.

I looked at some of their standard sequential games. They were taking back to back turns with about 45 seconds of separation. I don't think that it's a coincidence when you have 24 hours to take your turn. Once or twice, maybe. Not over and over again.

Cisco2001

OOGA BOOGA wrote:Theyr are for sure cheating no matter what you say. I already caught maximvs, tainter, and my name is mic doing the same thing. This is a very easy case to prove. I mean 25 different games where they attack eachothers targets or take out eachothers targets is too many to be considered an accident. They cheat plain and simple. A score reset is well deserved. I got my score reset for the same thing just not even close to as many times. I was the one who came forward and turned myself in. Why should'nt they get a score reset?? Read the game logs. They cheated in 25 games. That can easily be seen by anyone.

I once again reiterate the fact that I have heaps of evidence that say they are solid players as they have participated in many tournaments. I'm not saying they didn't cheat in some games, I am saying they do not cheat in ALL games.

I also happen to know that they are close friends who spend a lot of time at each other's homes. Just because people take their turns immediately following each other does not mean they are always cheating. I've played in plenty of games with my wife and sometimes we take our turns close together. Doesn't mean we are cheating.

I've also taken turns mere minutes following my brother-in-law who lives up the road. We weren't cheating then either.

They cheat plain and simple. They attacked eachothers targets in a ton of games. I read through all those games myself. Try looking at the evidence. What is wrong with you? Why are you trying to defend obvious cheaters?

absolutley not......i have played over 1600 games and only a handful have been with gloman55 most of them are team dubs or tournaments. as you can see in my games i have only played 20 or less assisain games. this is in no way cheating. as you can see in the game log we are not one player as the time stamps can prove that we are going at

well for starters.......... I am 48 years old and I believe that Jsmith72 is in high school. I live in New Mexico, where I am a hot glass artisan........and I believe Jsmith72 lives up somewhere around the north east coast. So we are definetly not the same person man. also our playing styles are completly different. though Jsmith is younger than I, he play better than I do.................so whats next?

Optimus Prime wrote:I also happen to know that they are close friends who spend a lot of time at each other's homes.

gloman55 wrote:well for starters.......... I am 48 years old and I believe that Jsmith72 is in high school. I live in New Mexico, where I am a hot glass artisan........and I believe Jsmith72 lives up somewhere around the north east coast. So we are definetly not the same person man. also our playing styles are completly different. though Jsmith is younger than I, he play better than I do.................so whats next?

Sorry Optimus, I think you might be wrong on this one.

Yeah.....got them mixed up with another pair of guys in the tournament world.

I stand by everything else though.

well I hope the dust all settles at some point. I enjoy playing here and would like to continue playing. ..............It's a nice way to spend a few moments inbetween working my glass. peace

yeah this is complety ridiclous.........i have played over 1600+ games and the twenty that i play with a friend are held against me. so whenever you play consecutive games with someone you are considered to have an allieance...and for the in game killing. have played almost jsu tas many by MYSELF and won most of them maybe sometimes it would be not on purpose thats what most of them were...it was like my target was in china and someone would be in aussie....they have to come out....is that an alliance b/c that has happened in many of your games ooga booga you win a lot too...are all the buddies that play in your games cheaters. come on i love this site i am a clan leader i havent played those games in over 2 months because of the score flucation that they can bring. it is obserd. i did not cheat for all i care run a fucking ip address check and then youll see.......then come back.

Look at all the assassin games that they played and neither of them won...


Hey lookie here:

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1733833

cisco2001 wrote:I looked at some of their standard sequential games. They were taking back to back turns with about 45 seconds of separation. I don't think that it's a coincidence when you have 24 hours to take your turn. Once or twice, maybe. Not over and over again.

Cisco2001

you friggen idiot....you must be ignorant....we planned this game and played together...you must not have any friends lol...oh well thats all i know now is that you are dumb. We played together thats all......jackass

Jsmith isnt a cheater or multi or secret alliance player..He is here for fun and good competition..

You guys are a bunch of liars. Twenty five games is not a handfull of assasin games. Those are just the ones that i can prove by reading the game logs. You won games for eachother many times. I am sorry but those are not accidents. An accident happens maybe twice not 25 times. You both lie and you both cheat. The mods have a very easy one here. You guys are caught. Just admit it and maybe they will not reset your score. i think they should because you two just keep lying anout it when I caught you red handed.

Wow i didnt even notice that the guys defending jsmith72 are in the same clan with him. Look at there avatars. You guys are crazy. Maybe you guys knew about it and maybe you are too. Jesus I can understand you guys sticking together but these two (gloman55 and jsmith72) cheated. They are caught. Give it up. The nly way they will not get busted is if the had the O.J. Simpson defense team.

its very easy..run and ip address check and read all the pms sent between us...there was no cantact and we arent together. give it up it was less that a hundreth of my games less than half of all the games we have played together. we did not CHEAT

Buddy an Ip check does'nt mean you did'nt cheat. You both attacked eachothers targets in assasin games. Not a couple of times but 25 times. It would have probably have been more but some people get better drops and you could'nt win them all. Your a cheater. I caught you give it up. I don't what an IP check says. You two are cheating you definately need to ban from playing with one another but I believe you deserve a score reset also. You cheated 25 time that can be proven. That's alot of points that you did'nt earn by playing fair. You should not be able to keep them.

I am defending both of them, and I am not in jsmith72's clan.

Give it a rest.

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1571801
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1572127
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1304961

3 more games where someone attacked the wrong target.


http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1554004

You won this game; earlier in the game Gloman attacked your target! You cheater!

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1383012

You won this game; vladablok9a eliminated your target! You cheater!


Give it a rest, many assassin games are screwed up because people are rushing to get to their target and are not paying attention to anyone else.

I admit accidents happen but not 25 times. You should just give up. they are caught. Plain and simple I already caught tainter, my name is mic and maximvs. They tried doing the same thing and now are banned from playing together. I just hope that this time these to will get a score reset.

exactly...why ( if we cheated) would we attack other targets and make both of us loose....all 1600 games over 100 assisian and we play them together because we like them out of 1600 and 100 you think 20 little games is cheating...come on man gimme a break i dont even play them anyomore and it was so long ago i already lost the points i have gained from the few that i won.....because i lost a whole fuckload of them too...much mich more than ive won....i almost broke even on all assiasian games ive played...20 games is nothing dude give it up we DID NOT CHEAT

Plus you have such a time constraint do you really think that we could have communicted and strategized all in enough time to win..msot of the time the fuckin games are over in the first round..theres no time to even think its just an adreline rush and very quick to victory or even quickr to loss.....

Buddy i dont care what you say i have the right to my opion and i have already posted about it. Just give it a rest trying to defend yourself and the mods will take care of you. I know you cheated and so don't anybody with half a brain that looks at any of the games I posted. You could always talk on an instant messenger or make a phone call. It's not that difficult. You did it admit it and give it a rest. You need a score reset for all of this crap you are trying to use to defend yourself. YOU ARE A CHEATER!!!!!!!! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!!

plain and simple your a fucking jackass...i never admitted it and never will have to b/c i didnt cheat. and i have you quoted its a fucking OPINION there is no prof of contact or ignorance for the rules here b/c it did not happen even 2/4 games it was less than half biuddy..so take your opinion to the everybodies column in the newspaper and leave you flase accusiations at home.