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Sovsotif and btwong [cleared]

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:11 am
by devnull
Accused:
Sovsotif
btwong

The accused are suspected of:
Being Multis or Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):
[game]http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=3518672[/game]

Comments:
They haven't been attacking each other, are online at the same time and are playing together in a lot of games.
This is just a guess, but it very much looks like...

Re: Sovsotif and btwong

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:01 am
by ManBungalow
No idea about this....
Maybe if they were multis they would win more of the games they plan together ??
Clarification : multis generally win. These two have had a normal amount of wins against each other.

Re: Sovsotif and btwong

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:31 am
by devnull
as mentioned, this must not be a multi.
as for your clarification: two multis, supporting each other take more wins, than 2 individuals. so no need to just push one account.
though certain login times point towards a multi.

i'd prefer the term secret deplomacy anyway. if this is a multi or not, can only be judged by the server log files.

Re: Sovsotif and btwong & Wak1

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:40 am
by mccallan25
ok...that first game leads me to more....

Game 3212458


*** some sort of arrangement must be the case. I do think though they are multi's. Especially with btwong's comment that he likes to do anything illegal in his profile.


I went to Game 3212458 since the two were in the same game but now you have Sovsotif playing and then another person (multi) immediately playing afterwards named, wak1. Wak1 Plays after Sov. everytime.

Now guys....the odds of them signing on and playing back to back at different times 50% of the time are incredible. That percentage would have been more but a different player suddenly starts taking his turns after Sov.

Accused:

wak1
Sovsotif



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis


Game number(s):
Game 2444228 in this game he takes back to back turns 38 times. HMMMM????? Never plays at the same second even when turns overlap.

Game 2065173
Game 2143191
Game 2433324

Game 2469433
Game 2540013
Game 2604427
Game 3020037
Game 3212458
Game 3399130




Comments: Over and over you will see Wak1 not attacking Sov and vice versa unless they need the country. They play in sequential order within a minute 78 times. Even when the turns start hours apart. Most of the time we see Wak1 going first then Sov. I think he's a more cleaver multi on CC. Run the IP's and whatever else you do. I started to do a statistical analysis of his turns/games until I ran into game : Game 2444228 Now there's no need.

Sovsotif & Wak1 (multis)

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:55 am
by mccallan25
Accused:

wak1
Sovsotif



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis


Game number(s):
Game 2444228 in this game he takes back to back turns 38 times. HMMMM????? Never plays at the same second even when turns overlap.

Game 2065173
Game 2143191
Game 2433324

Game 2469433
Game 2540013
Game 2604427
Game 3020037
Game 3212458
Game 3399130




Comments: Over and over you will see Wak1 not attacking Sov and vice versa unless they need the country. They play in sequential order within a minute 78 times. Even when the turns start hours apart. Most of the time we see Wak1 going first then Sov. I think he's a more cleaver multi on CC. Run the IP's and whatever else you do. I started to do a statistical analysis of his turns/games until I ran into game : Game 2444228 Now there's no need.

Re: Sovsotif and btwong

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:00 pm
by lancehoch
Second thread merged in. Just as a note, you do not need to make a new thread if you are simply adding to the current accusation.

Re: Sovsotif and btwong

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:19 pm
by mccallan25
*****What's really interesting is that they will not defend themselves. I pm'ed them this info and link.

Re: Sovsotif and btwong

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:31 am
by waerth
Sovsotif defends himself but in the game that he is in ...

Re: Sovsotif and btwong

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:01 am
by devnull
true. and the funny part: just after they learned about this thread they started attacking eachother :)
don't really know what to think about it, just looked really weird to me what they did and how they played.
i wouldn't leave my borders unfortified or even let someone grow without attacking him. except if theres some kind of truce.

Re: Sovsotif and btwong

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:27 am
by btwong
hahaha... this is a funny thread. i didn't even know it existed until i read the ingame talk in the game http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=3566780.

Firstly, i am definitely not Sovsotif. Thats for sure. For one, i live in Vietnam (look at my ip address), and Sovsotif lives in europe or something. , i am a web developer that works pretty much 6 days aweek, and i am always around the internet, so yes i play alot of games, cause i am always on the damn computer.

Secondly, i have played many games that have had Sovsotif in them, because we like similar games. World Map 2.1 and terminator games.

3rdly, you can see i joined CC about 5 months before him.

4th. Sometimes we are on at the exact same time, but if you look, our IP addresses will be on opposite sides of the world.

5th.. mccallan25.. your a goose.

*****What's really interesting is that they will not defend themselves. I pm'ed them this info and link.
I recieved nothing. Don't resort to lying to plead your case... arguing on your knees is not a good look!

"*** some sort of arrangement must be the case. I do think though they are multi's. Especially with btwong's comment that he likes to do anything illegal in his profile.****"... you seriously have no life. Get out and smell some fresh air... it might clear and fix all those deformed synaptic pathways that have been crossed/damaged while you where banging your fist on the keyboard trying to prove that Sovsotfi and myself are one and the same...

Anyway, i am pretty chuffed that you both have been thinking about me all this time... and i wish i could return the favour... but i think that energy would be better used watching flys swarm around a big turd.

Re: Sovsotif and btwong

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:41 pm
by Jeff Hardy
they cant be multis...
theyre not from the same country

Re: Sovsotif and btwong

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:49 pm
by Digital Jihad
Secret alliances.

Re: Sovsotif and btwong

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:55 pm
by Jeff Hardy
yup, is possible but we can rule multis out

Re: Sovsotif and btwong

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:56 pm
by Digital Jihad
Not yet. There are such things as proxy's.

Re: Sovsotif and btwong

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:34 pm
by Darwins_Bane
there are ways to find around proxy servers....so thats pretty easy to rule out.

Re: Sovsotif and btwong

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:01 am
by king achilles
Sovsotif, btwong and wak1 are cleared of being multis with one another. As for a secret alliance, on what basis can we declare this?

Re: Sovsotif and btwong [cleared]

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:06 am
by mccallan25
I cannot understand how Wak1 and sovsotif are not multi's when you look at each of their games.

Btwong, I don't believe is. My thread was merged because of Sovsotif's name was in it.