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Re: Zombie Invasion!- Back From the Dead Version 26 [page 13

Postby MarshalNey on Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:36 am

Top Dog wrote:I'd try tweaking the fonts once again... I know you said earlier they might just be filler for now...


Do you mean the street names or all of them?

Top Dog wrote:as for the losing condition... wouldn't it make it quite easy for someone to simply take out a weaker players HQ, get all their cards, get their gang bonus, and easily take out the rest of the neutrals in the building for an extra bonus. I guess I'm saying that it could slingshot any one player into a huge advantage in just one turn.

I know the "or 5 regions" rule will help.. but I'm still not so sure about this...


Thanks TD for the feedback :)
Yeah I know that losing conditions make people nervous, but this one is far more friendly than, say, Middle Ages, and that map works fine I think.

The 'or 5 regions' will prevent early eliminations, even in 8 player games unless a serious gang-up occurs (a player would have to lose 4 regions and take none in return). In addition, the gangs are not easy to take in the 1st place since they start with 6 troops- having played 3rd Crusade a lot (which also has starting positions with 6 troops) I know that most players are very reluctant to gamble their deployment attacking a stack of 6 with anything like even numbers. And the gangs give no autodeploy or other bonus (also like 3rd Crusade), so the incentive is low.

In other words, if very early elimination is a concern, it shouldn't be. I am confident that this scheme is proofed against sucker-punches ;) I do think that eliminations will become a concern in larger-player games (6 or more) after several rounds, depending upon how aggressive the players involved are.

Also, just because the losing condition is balanced doesn't necessarily make the losing condition a good idea. If it doesn't provide any benefit but just clutters the map with rules, it should go.

So, perhaps I should explain my thinking in providing a losing condition:
(1) It will enhance the theme of a fight for survival, of the map vs. the players
(2) If a player is eliminated, their regions become neutral- and I love the idea of 'living troops' turning into undead blockers
(3) With the minimum regions requirement, I'm interested to see how this would affect team games. Often, you'll see a team with one player who has 30 regions and another who has only 2 or 3 and is just feeding his teammate troops. The losing condition on this map would force teams to have a better-rounded approach, where every member has to fight to stay strong.

So those are what I think would be the benefits, but does this outweigh the added complication to the map? That is the question, I think.

isaiah40 wrote:Personally, I say scrap the losing condition and keep what you have.


I gotcha Izzy :) Any reason in particular? I'm not convinced either way so far, I'm very much on the fence as to whether I should abandon the idea or not.
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Re: Zombie Invasion!- Back From the Dead Version 26 [page 13

Postby Industrial Helix on Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:23 pm

oh noes, a living dead map! Glad to see it back, I hope gettysburg is on the way as well
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Re: Zombie Invasion!- Back From the Dead Version 26 [page 13

Postby Teflon Kris on Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:10 pm

A losing condition is totally fitting for the theme of the map.

Important to be careful though, you are right, maybe "or 4 regions"?
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Re: Zombie Invasion!- Back From the Dead Version 26 [page 13

Postby RedBaron0 on Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:02 am

Revived from the dead only to fall back?! MN, what's your status on this?
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Re: Zombie Invasion!- Back From the Dead Version 26 [page 13

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:39 pm

RedBaron0 wrote:Revived from the dead only to fall back?! MN, what's your status on this?

Erm, MarshalNey's on vacation...

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Re: Zombie Invasion!- Back From the Dead Version 26 [page 13

Postby RedBaron0 on Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:30 am

Why does nobody tells me these things? :P
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Re: Zombie Invasion!- Back From the Dead Version 26 [page 13

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:44 pm

RedBaron0 wrote:Why does nobody tells me these things? :P

Because we love you too much.

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Re: Zombie Invasion!- Back From the Dead Version 26 [page 13

Postby thenobodies80 on Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:28 pm

It's passed a month without an update.

Moving this one into the Recycling Box for a [Vacation] period, if you want to continue with the map, then one of the Foundry Moderators will be able to help put the thread back into the Foundry system, after an update has been made. ;)

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Re: [Abandoned] - Zombie Invasion!

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:33 pm

I was just revisiting this map, since I caught Shaun of the Dead again recently, and now with the Battle Royale feature, something like this map could make for a pretty kickass BR map...


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