[Abandoned] - WW1 Empires Map

[Telvannia]

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7748/empiressmall2xc.jpg

WW1 Map
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6633/empireswithrestofmap7jh.png
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/4849/empireswithrestofmap3lh.png


This is using a the map from WW1 with the right countries shown
only thing is, it groups up empires for example Russia is now one country only rather than many ruled by one leader
do you think i should use the modern map with the empires on or use the WW1 map and break up the countries?

i want a list of empires. i currently have:

British
French
German
Italian
Chinese
Austro-Hungarian
Portuguese
Russian
Dutch
Ottoman

Should i add:

More territories to South America?
More empires?
More territories to North America

[Lone.prophet]

Zulu, chinese, babylonian, incas, mayas and aztecs

[Telvannia]

i was thinking of empires about at the time of the start of world war one

i have posted the image

[Lone.prophet]

japan and russia

[Telvannia]

russia only really includes the country russia

japan had not really spread much at that point

[Lone.prophet]

the dutch had indonesia and suriname (South africa) and u sure all those countries in SA are spanish and not some portugese?

[Ruben Cassar]

russia only really includes the country russia

japan had not really spread much at that point

What does this mean about Russia? It included Ukraine, Belarus and many other countries. And besides even if that were the point you cannot ignore the largest empire in terms of land area.

While we are at it what empire did Spain have at the start of WWI? None, because most (if not all) of South America was already independent.

P.S. Brazil was part of the Portuguese empire once (before WWI) which wasn't part of the Spanish Empire at that time either.

Also if we are speaking WWI you've got to have the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Ottoman Empire.

[onbekende]

you will need to make the map bigger, even without adding Russia to the mix

Japan was indeed still only the islands, they had Korea and such later.

[Lone.prophet]

later than got 1/4 of china

[Balsiefen]

you definatly need portugal though and if this is shortly before WWI as posted britain and spain didn't have anything in USA

also spain and italy look too simular

a good map idia though, could maki a good map

Edit: looking at the map the sprad of empires would make it very hard to gain a continent, but it would also make playability unique-whether this is good or bad i'm not sure

[Maggi]

i agree that portugal should be a seperate empire.

That would include:

- Brasil
- Angola
- Guinea-Bissau
- Cape Verde
- Mozambique
- Sao Tome & Principe
- Macao
- East Timor


Also Netherlands can be added, however it would be a small empire around WW1:

- Indonesia
- New Guinea
- Netherlands Antilles
- Surinam
someone mentioned South Africa, but it was taken over by the british around 1800.

[Ruben Cassar]

i agree that portugal should be a seperate empire.

That would include:

- Brasil
- Angola
- Guinea-Bissau
- Cape Verde
- Mozambique
- Sao Tome & Principe
- Macao
- East Timor


Also Netherlands can be added, however it would be a small empire around WW2:

- Indonesia
- New Guinea
- Netherlands Antilles
- Surinam
someone mentione South Africa, but it was taken over by the britisch around 1800.

Brazil had gained independence from Portugal in the early 1820s if I am not mistaken. It can't be part of a Portuguese empire if this map is staged in WWI as I said earlier. It all depends on the age the map is based upon.

[Maggi]

you are right.

Note that when WW1 is taken as year of reference most of the countries in the map were already independent, such as Canada, the United states and most of the countries in south-america...

[Guiscard]

Its gonna turn out pretty similar to the current world maps surely?

[Telvannia]

the dutch had indonesia and suriname (South africa) and u sure all those countries in SA are spanish and not some portugese?

i agree that portugal should be a seperate empire.

That would include:

- Brasil
- Angola
- Guinea-Bissau
- Cape Verde
- Mozambique
- Sao Tome & Principe
- Macao
- East Timor

i was rolling spain and portugal together maybe will try and seperate them.

you definatly need portugal though and if this is shortly before WWI as posted britain and spain didn't have anything in USA

if this map is staged in WWI as I said earlier. It all depends on the age the map is based upon.

Note that when WW1 is taken as year of reference most of the countries in the map were already independent, such as Canada, the United states and most of the countries in south-america...

i think i might change it away from WWI to a time when the empires were at their biggest.

Its gonna turn out pretty similar to the current world maps surely?

hopefully not because in that the territories in a continent are all really close together.

you will need to make the map bigger, even without adding Russia to the mix

that is the size of the small map
i will post the large one in future though so you can study it better

[Maggi]

Well, i "did" some wikipedia:

British Empire in 1921:
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afbeelding ... e_1921.png

French Empire around WW1:
(only the DARK blue)
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afbeelding ... pire10.png

German Empire (Zweites Kaiserreich = 1852 - 1870):
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Map_o ... Empire.PNG

Dutch Empire (way earlier than WW1, see my list posted earlier for colonies around WW1)
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afbeelding ... C3%ABn.PNG

I also found a map (in German) of all colonization around 1945:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Colonization_1945.png

[Telvannia]

British Empire in 1921:
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afbeelding ... e_1921.png

I will use this map rather than the one i got this one shows countries better

French Empire around WW1:
(only the DARK blue)
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afbeelding ... pire10.png

this is the map i used for the french

German Empire (Zweites Kaiserreich = 1852 - 1870):
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Map_o ... Empire.PNG

this is the map i used for the germans

Dutch Empire (way earlier than WW1, see my list posted earlier for colonies around WW1)
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afbeelding ... C3%ABn.PNG

had not seen that one i will look at that one

I also found a map (in German) of all colonization around 1945:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Colonization_1945.png

might set it in WW2 then


i will set up a poll on that

[Maggi]

I think WW1 is the best choice (with most of the countries in both americas as independent states). WW2 limites the number of countries, and when you use the time empires were at their biggest there are troubles with overlap. i.e. Spain ruled like most of the world around 1700, but before WW1 they lost almost all their colonies.

Another good example is Sri Lanka, which belonged to The Portuguese, the British ánd the Dutch. Same problem as well for several carebian islands.

[Telvannia]

I think WW1 is the best choice (with most of the countries in both americas as independent states). WW2 limites the number of countries, and when you use the time empires were at their biggest there are troubles with overlap. i.e. Spain ruled like most of the world around 1700, but before WW1 they lost almost all their colonies.

Another good example is Sri Lanka, which belonged to The Portuguese, the British ánd the Dutch. Same problem as well for several carebian islands.

that is true
i will see if i can find a map of the empires during WW1 and see what that looks like

[Ruben Cassar]

Also do add the Russian Empire in the map. And the Austro-Hungarian Empire please.

[Telvannia]

ok i will see if i can find maps for these empires

[Telvannia]

does anyone know where i can find a map of the empires before the start of world war one?

[Ruben Cassar]

does anyone know where i can find a map of the empires before the start of world war one?

Check wikipedia. I think you might find something there. Or make a google search.

[Lapo]

It looks like XV-XVII centuries

[Telvannia]

does anyone know where i can find a map of the empires before the start of world war one?

Check wikipedia. I think you might find something there. Or make a google search.

i had a look on both could not see something straight away

i will have a closer look later