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Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:46 pm
by The Bison King
No it hasn't been yet sadly. I've been postponing writing the letter to George himself but that's the stage we're at.

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:57 pm
by thenobodies80
The Bison King wrote:No it hasn't been yet sadly. I've been postponing writing the letter to George himself but that's the stage we're at.


I've un-stickied this topic. When you have solved the above issue I'll change it back again. ;)

Nobodies

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:24 pm
by $t0kA
this looks very promising, probably the best map in the foundry at the moment, i dont understand the Greyjoy bannermen though. i love the show so i feel the Wall is a big part of it, so yeah maybe think about adding in the wall and the snowy wilderness??

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:30 pm
by $t0kA
just a quick question here, so this is set before the show right? before Robert takes the throne?

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:23 pm
by isaiah40
How's the copyright thingy coming along TBK?

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:48 pm
by The Bison King
$t0kA wrote:this looks very promising, probably the best map in the foundry at the moment, i dont understand the Greyjoy bannermen though. i love the show so i feel the Wall is a big part of it, so yeah maybe think about adding in the wall and the snowy wilderness??

In the books the Greyjoys and their bannermen (the Iron born) are basically vikings in nature. The Iron Islands are rocky and terrible for growing crops so they used to loot and pillage the surrounding shores for their plunder.

$t0kA wrote:just a quick question here, so this is set before the show right? before Robert takes the throne?

That's exactly correct.

isaiah40 wrote:How's the copyright thingy coming along TBK?

I'm going to send you a PM about that.

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:19 am
by hoschke118
I know the current discussion is about copyright and everything but I've got a couple of thoughts on gameplay...

In the books the emphasis is on the alliances/loyalties between the main seats of one house and another, rather than between the main seat of a house and it's own bannermen territories. I'd be cool if you could show this through gameplay somehow. One way I thought of doing it would be by "combining" the houses if you owned two or more main seats.

So, say you owned both winterfell and the eyrie, then you would get a +1 bonus for any 2 bannermen from either house. for example if you owned 3 bannermen from each (6 total) then you'd get a +3 bonus, rather than a +2 with your current system. Similar rules for if you owned 3 or 4 main seats.

It may be a little over complicated and not worth it, but i think something to a similar effect would be good.

Also, seeing as king's landing is the capital, maybe a bonus for if you own kings landing and a certain number of main seats? Say, +2 for every 2 main seats?

Maybe this is too many bonuses...

Anyway, good luck with the copyright issues. Great job so far :D

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:59 pm
by Evil DIMwit
hoschke118 wrote:So, say you owned both winterfell and the eyrie, then you would get a +1 bonus for any 2 bannermen from either house. for example if you owned 3 bannermen from each (6 total) then you'd get a +3 bonus, rather than a +2 with your current system. Similar rules for if you owned 3 or 4 main seats.


I think that would be very complicated to implement under the current XML, and not add much to the gameplay beyond a very subtle thematic point.

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:51 pm
by RjBeals
not sure if you have seen the amazing westeros map over at cartographersguild. I'll attach a photo of it here. And the link to the thread here: http://www.cartographersguild.com/showt ... an-project
You should register at the guild just to read through the legal issues faced with that map. However, "tear" has created an amazing map, one of my favorites.

Click image to enlarge.
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Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:46 am
by hoschke118
Evil DIMwit wrote:
hoschke118 wrote:So, say you owned both winterfell and the eyrie, then you would get a +1 bonus for any 2 bannermen from either house. for example if you owned 3 bannermen from each (6 total) then you'd get a +3 bonus, rather than a +2 with your current system. Similar rules for if you owned 3 or 4 main seats.


I think that would be very complicated to implement under the current XML, and not add much to the gameplay beyond a very subtle thematic point.


yeah, I figured. I do like subtle thematic points though, and I think this map really needs some.

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:22 am
by The Bison King
RjBeals wrote:not sure if you have seen the amazing westeros map over at cartographersguild. I'll attach a photo of it here. And the link to the thread here: http://www.cartographersguild.com/showt ... an-project
You should register at the guild just to read through the legal issues faced with that map. However, "tear" has created an amazing map, one of my favorites.

Click image to enlarge.
image

I've seen that map before. It's absolutely amazing! and yes. It does make me look like a chump, I am aware.

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:30 am
by RjBeals
The Bison King wrote: It does make me look like a chump, I am aware.

Not the intent. Just to give inspiration.

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:35 am
by isaiah40
[MOVED]

Until the Copyright issue is resolved this has been moved into the Rcycling Bin.

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:07 am
by rmt333
The Bison King wrote:No it hasn't been yet sadly. I've been postponing writing the letter to George himself but that's the stage we're at.


have you tried this approach? back in the day GRRM was VERY approachable....heck I even had a 10 min convo on instant messenger....maybe he is diff now that he is getting paydays and HBO and all....

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:56 pm
by thehippo8
rmt333 wrote:
The Bison King wrote:No it hasn't been yet sadly. I've been postponing writing the letter to George himself but that's the stage we're at.


have you tried this approach? back in the day GRRM was VERY approachable....heck I even had a 10 min convo on instant messenger....maybe he is diff now that he is getting paydays and HBO and all....


I vote you make the approach ..you are the closest thing we have to a mate!

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:07 pm
by rmt333
will give it a shot...can't hurt :D

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:28 am
by thehippo8
You may be interested in the article I wrote for the next edition of Dispatch - I revisit the copyright issue considering the Hasbro/Scrabulous fight.

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:54 pm
by The Bison King
I'm bumping this so that it's easier to find upon restoration. BTW, the letter has been sent and we are currently waiting upon a reply.

Keep your fingers crossed!

Re: [Waiting] - WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:06 pm
by .Kush
any news?

Re: [Waiting] - WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:21 am
by The Bison King
Sadly no... apparently George Martin is notoriously bad about responding to emails.

Re: [Waiting] - WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:26 am
by thehippo8
The Bison King wrote:Sadly no... apparently George Martin is notoriously bad about responding to emails.


Send him snail mail?

Re: [Waiting] - WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:21 am
by koontz1973
If all else fails, go the LOTR route and change eliments of the map but keep the layout.

Re: [Waiting] - WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:35 pm
by thenobodies80
I hope I'm wrong, but I'm starting to think you won't be able to continue this one....(who knows when and IF he will give an answer to you)

Re: [Waiting] - WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:02 am
by Master Bush
still nothing? i would play on this map all day long. it's brilliant looking.

Re: WESTEROS (Game of Thrones)

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:02 am
by Master Bush
thehippo8 wrote:You may be interested in the article I wrote for the next edition of Dispatch - I revisit the copyright issue considering the Hasbro/Scrabulous fight.


I would be interested. Have a link?