Conquer Club

[Abandoned] - Finnish Winter War map

Abandoned and Vacationed maps. The final resting place, unless you recycle.

Moderator: Cartographers

Forum rules
Please read the Community Guidelines before posting.

[Abandoned] - Finnish Winter War map

Postby tseepra on Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:25 pm

Newmap based loosely on the Finnish Winter War of 1939-1940, fought between the Soviet Union and Finland.

Image


Current problems:
The continent army bonuses.t's hard to seperate the 7th army from the 8th army.
Not sure about the impassable borders, weather there should be more or less.

What I would like to keep in this map:
I want Finland to be easy to defend from Russia, but worth less than Russia.
I want to keep Finland blue and Russia red.

So, suggestions, comments and questions are all welcome.
Last edited by tseepra on Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:36 pm, edited 5 times in total.
Private 1st Class tseepra
 
Posts: 18
Joined: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:54 pm

Postby fireedud on Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:28 pm

You have an extra army in murmansk, and have twoi armies in the Salla army cirlcle.
Cook fireedud
 
Posts: 1704
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:06 pm

Postby Jack0827 on Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:30 pm

its a nice idea and a nice begining. I like the tecture on russia but over all it needs some work
:wink:
User avatar
Private Jack0827
 
Posts: 101
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:54 pm
Location: newport news va

Postby neoni on Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:07 pm

i think it's excellent for a first draft, and looks like it could be good fun
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class neoni
 
Posts: 258
Joined: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:05 am
Location: obar dheathainn :(, alba

Postby pancakemix on Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:18 pm

There are two armies in the Kem circle, too. Center the numbers more, ditch the Scandanavia flags and the small territories. I like the idea, though. It has potential.
Epic Win

"Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember." - Richard Roma, Glengarry Glen Ross

aage wrote:Never trust CYOC or pancake.
User avatar
Corporal 1st Class pancakemix
 
Posts: 7973
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:39 pm
Location: The Grim Guzzler

Postby luckiekevin on Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:47 pm

Color of countries are too close to each other. Reds and Blues. and yes, the numbers are kind of messed up
Real players don't just play team games
User avatar
Corporal luckiekevin
 
Posts: 272
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:08 pm
Location: California

Postby pepperonibread on Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:48 pm

Awesome map so far. The only thing I'd suggest is making the separate armies (continents) more visible. You could still leave Russia red and Finland blue, but you could have like a light red, a regular red and a saturated red, and the same with blue.
Great first draft!
Image
User avatar
Corporal pepperonibread
 
Posts: 954
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:33 pm
Location: The Former Confederacy

Postby mibi on Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:53 pm

Finland has a military? They certainly didnt teach this war in history class.
User avatar
Captain mibi
 
Posts: 3350
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:19 pm
Location: The Great State of Vermont

Postby neoni on Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:20 pm

that's why the rest of the world makes fun of the american education system :wink:
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class neoni
 
Posts: 258
Joined: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:05 am
Location: obar dheathainn :(, alba

Postby Black Bear on Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:48 am

Looks cool on the front but just one thing: well it's a little small the graphic details are excellent but make it a bit bigger :D
Show me what you got!

Image
User avatar
Private 1st Class Black Bear
 
Posts: 18
Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:09 pm
Location: On the Battlefield

Postby Fireside Poet on Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:03 am

I like this idea ... probably because I've had it pass through my mind also. ;) Good luck!
Image
Click this logo for more information on joining!
User avatar
Major Fireside Poet
 
Posts: 2671
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:49 pm

Postby spinwizard on Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:04 am

neoni wrote:that's why the rest of the world makes fun of the american education system :wink:


ROFL! :lol: :lol: :lol:
User avatar
Private 1st Class spinwizard
 
Posts: 5016
Joined: Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:52 am

Postby Fitz69 on Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:42 am

mibi wrote:Finland has a military? They certainly didnt teach this war in history class.

Just so you know, they kicked some serious a**.
User avatar
Cook Fitz69
 
Posts: 196
Joined: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:46 am
Location: Sweden

Postby tseepra on Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:58 pm

Image
New legend.
More clear coast.
More clear altogether.
Army circles are smaller.
No more numbers because they were messed up.

Fitz69 wrote:
mibi wrote:Finland has a military? They certainly didnt teach this war in history class.

Just so you know, they kicked some serious a**.


We did, and that is what inspired me to do a winter war map. Finland might have been outnumbered 4:1 in infantry and 1000:1 in tanks but we still beat off to russian invaders.

Ok, so whay I want to ask the foundry:
What should the bonuses be like?
Do you like the Swedish and Norwegian flags in the top left? (I do)
What sbould the legend be like? (the current legend sucks, tbh)
Should there be any more impassable borders (perhaps one between Eastern CMD and Western CMD?)
Should I remove the ability to attack from Estonia to Helsinki?

And also, I think the colours are distinguishable from eachohter, who thinks they should be even more different?

I want to put a title which tells the story of Finland vs Russia, but I'm a bit drunk atm so maybe next week.
Private 1st Class tseepra
 
Posts: 18
Joined: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:54 pm

Postby Evil Pope on Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:08 pm

The only problem I can think of would be that the continents are kinda hard to hold, as far as I can see.
User avatar
Sergeant Evil Pope
 
Posts: 275
Joined: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:39 pm

Postby Bavarian Raven on Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:14 pm

i like it... :D ...but maybe have some spacific cities worth plus 1 bonus or something like that...make it a bit more of a challenge for those unlucky enough not to start on one of them.. 8) :twisted:
Sergeant 1st Class Bavarian Raven
 
Posts: 261
Joined: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:52 pm
Location: Canada, Vancouver

Postby pancakemix on Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:14 pm

East/West CMD is the only problem I see regarding continents.
Epic Win

"Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember." - Richard Roma, Glengarry Glen Ross

aage wrote:Never trust CYOC or pancake.
User avatar
Corporal 1st Class pancakemix
 
Posts: 7973
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:39 pm
Location: The Grim Guzzler

Postby Fireside Poet on Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:08 am

Love this one to be honest. I forsee this one as a smaller "Indochina" style map where a 6 player game would be rugged, but this would fit beautifully as a 3-5 player. Keep up the good work... looking forward to this one already.

One small suggestion - there needs to be a Finnish flag somewhere... :)
Image
Click this logo for more information on joining!
User avatar
Major Fireside Poet
 
Posts: 2671
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:49 pm

Postby Neutrino on Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:28 am

I definitely like this map and I think its pretty good as it is, but I do have some sugestions:

Vary the colours more, (but keep them Red and Blue) so we dont have to use the continent shapes in the corner to tell what they are.

The actual regions names, rather than just CMD and X Army as the contnent names.

The bonuses probably need to be adjusted a bit.

Also, I noticed that the Hammer and Sickle are edged with blue, which makes them seem a bit odd.

Other than that, great map!
We own all your helmets, we own all your shoes, we own all your generals. Touch us and you loooose...

The Rogue State!
User avatar
Corporal Neutrino
 
Posts: 2693
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:53 am
Location: Combating the threat of dihydrogen monoxide.

Postby Balsiefen on Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:49 am

I dont know if its my screen but east and west cmd are virtually indestinguiahable to me, at first glance i thaught they were one continent
you may need to lighten one up a bit
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class Balsiefen
 
Posts: 2299
Joined: Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:15 am
Location: The Ford of the Aldar in the East of the Kingdom of Lindissi

Postby KEYOGI on Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:16 am

It's going to be near impossible to read blue numbers in the blue continents. I like the rich colours, but they're not going to work... unless you perhaps make the army shadows white?
Sergeant 1st Class KEYOGI
 
Posts: 1632
Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:09 am

Postby Cachorro on Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:23 pm

neoni wrote:that's why the rest of the world makes fun of the american education system :wink:


:lol:

Please use the google for example with the following: "Simo Häyhä" or "Simo Hayha" for your keyboard. Also Larry Thorne (Lauri Törni) might end up with some interesting results.

I like the map a lot! Some ideas:

Maybe adding Suursaari would bring something in between Leningrad/Estonia and Helsinki/Uusimaa?

Maybe a name for the map: "Talvisodan henki" or something similar in American language

Something else maybe later when I'm not this tired...
Major Cachorro
 
Posts: 10
Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:14 am

Postby ParadiceCity9 on Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:37 pm

sorry if its been said already...but the colors are too common and vibrant i think

but I like the idea...stick with it!
Corporal 1st Class ParadiceCity9
 
Posts: 4239
Joined: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:10 pm

Postby tseepra on Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:35 pm

New update, it might take me awhile to update this map because i'm in the middle of exams and moving flats.

Image

Updates:
Made the hammer and sickle more black on the borders.
The legend is new.
The colours are more varied.

Some comments:

The map is as wide as it can be.
I'm not sure how varied the colours can be anymore.

I had a few more points, but I'm drunk again...

Questions or comments are welcome and appreciated.
Private 1st Class tseepra
 
Posts: 18
Joined: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:54 pm

Postby luckiekevin on Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:44 pm

WOW! What beautiful improvement since the last time I checked.

I think you can take some liberties in making Narva and Meretaskov a little bigger to make those territories clearer. It's a bit clustered there right now.

The main issue right now is the text not fitting within the appropriate territories. These labels could be clearer. Also the water(ice?) between Kyme and Grendal looks like a country because it's outside borders colors match so closely with the blue land around it. It needs to be clearer that it is not land.
Real players don't just play team games
User avatar
Corporal luckiekevin
 
Posts: 272
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:08 pm
Location: California

Next

Return to Recycling Box

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users