Battle for the Spice Islands

[koontz1973]

vaughn03...sorry to be so blunt about the circles, but one thing i have learnt after 35 maps, is you can have the most complicated gameplay with icons etc, but you still have to apply the KISS principle and keep some map real estate empty to give the eyes a break.
The dotted line version achieves this well.

cairns speaks the truth.

[nolefan5311]

Just got back from holidays, but I agree that the lines are the way to go. The circles are just...I don't know how to phrase this other than what's already been said...garish. Looking at it, I have no idea what attacks what, etc.

[vaughn03]

Got it - no circles, go with lines. I'll take a look and see what else I can clean-up and repost. How about a Killer Typhoon as entry to Spice Islands with neutral reset? I like the look of my map - want to be sure to have good game-play. Just played 'Pot Mosbi' - same part of the world - great map - love the gameplay. You worked on that, eh 5311?

[Seamus76]

I'm more of a purest on this, as I would prefer the spice islands to just be an insert rather than only accessible through a killer neutral. Although as I type this the idea seems like it could be fun.

[nolefan5311]

Got it - no circles, go with lines. I'll take a look and see what else I can clean-up and repost. How about a Killer Typhoon as entry to Spice Islands with neutral reset? I like the look of my map - want to be sure to have good game-play. Just played 'Pot Mosbi' - same part of the world - great map - love the gameplay. You worked on that, eh 5311?

I didn't really do much except write the code for it, but it's a great map. cairns get all the credit there.

As far as the typhoon is concerned, I think that would add an interesting dynamic to the gameplay. You could perhaps make holding all or parts of the Spice Islands (along with Ports, Fleets, or whatever) as the winning condition. That would draw GP to the Spice Islands, and force players to have to pay attention to the killer neutral.

I look forward to seeing your next update.

[vaughn03]

Traveling now - near Spice Islands... Couple days. Will you help me to code my map? I'd like to learn - you can have the credit...

[nolefan5311]

Traveling now - near Spice Islands... Couple days. Will you help me to code my map? I'd like to learn - you can have the credit...

Sure, no problem.

[nolefan5311]

An update coming on this soon vaughn? Been nearly a month since the last. I'd like to see what route you took before suggesting any additional GP changes.

[vaughn03]

Just back to Bali from dive boat - Raja Ampat, West Papua, Indonesia. Will post update in a day or two. Thanks.

[zimmah]

I really like the theme and gameplay of this map, however the graphic style makes it difficult to get a good idea of the map at first glance.

[vaughn03]

I really appreciate criticism - but 'graphic style' is rather vague. Do you have something more specific? Something I could use or should I just start over..?

[zimmah]

well, especially the ports and the spices are the problem for me. I think they look nice, but it's making it look a bit complicated.

Also, i'm not sure about the coloring, especially central and northwest and the spice islands (they're all some shade of green).

the central islands have some blue accents in the minimap, yet they don't appear to have the same blueish color on the big map.

i'm also not sure if the win condition is clear to everyone at first glance (it's pretty much 'hidden in a corner'.)

also i think 3 'add-ons' to the map are a bit much and than there's overlayed text in 3 different locations that is not part of any of those 3 addons. (i still think CC should have the gameplay explanations seperate from the map, so that's not something you can fix, but still, i think it's a bit sloppy to have text all over the place)



gameplay-wise i'm not sure if the spices should all be in a single island. (geographically this is incorrect, but gameplay is more important than geography)

[vaughn03]

Thank you - I owe a revision and frankly I really didn't have much in mind. I will consider your suggestions and try and get a new post soon.

[vaughn03]

I'm lagging on this but I'm on vacation - I'm back Feb 20 and will work as the jetlag wears off...

I definitely agree with 'tightening up' color and 'text all over the place' suggestions. Will at least 'think' about other suggestions while I continue F'ing off...

Is 'continent' map (bottom left corner) a waste of time/space?

Love the input - thanks guys.

Vaughn03 lost somewhere in Indonesia...

[nolefan5311]

Sounds good vaughn. It's been a while since an update was posted and it doesn't seem like one will be coming until the 20th, so I'm going to go ahead and put this one on vacation. As soon as you post an update we'll move it back to the MFW. Have fun in Indonesia

Moved

[vaughn03]

Thanks

[vaughn03]

Battle for the Spice Islands.

Back after absence. Thank you for suggestions and support.

Have dropped some graphics and improved colors in effort to simplify map. All Bonus/Rules info in one place.

Hope you like it.

Vaughn03

[vaughn03]

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Battle for the Spice Islands.

Back after absence. Thank you for suggestions and support.

Have dropped some graphics and improved colors in effort to simplify map. All Bonus/Rules info in one place.

Hope you like it.

Vaughn03

[nolefan5311]

This is just a gorgeous map vaughn. I hope it gets put into play soon

[vaughn03]

Thanks - someone made some good suggestions about making it easier to read. He said it was complicated too and I think maybe it is but I want it to play different. Just hope it plays good... I'm sure it will get work there as well.

[ManBungalow]

Awesome.

However: the new borders look bad.

[vaughn03]

Yeah - I think so. I'm actually building this with much more resolution and it's kind of an issue. Thx.

[isaiah40]

Please put the title back int the first post so people can see what map it is. After you do that we can move this back into the Main Foundry.

isaiah40

[vaughn03]

Done - I think.

[koontz1973]

vaughn, welcome back. Really nice to see this here again. Bare with me as this is a new one for me to really dig into.

Taiwan, part of the Northwest bonus but it looks unconnected to anything. Same with Celam in South East. Central, what is connected to what? Does Sumatra attack Batavia?
In the legend you say:

FLEETS-1 way attacks ports bombards land
Troops 2 way attacks fleet and sea passages.

So if I have read that right, SF3 can attack Bangkok, Singapore and PF1? What can it bombard?
Macau attacks the sea route which can then attack the fleets. Correct?

This is what happens when you look at a map for the first time after a long while.