[Abandoned] - Switzerland

by **wcaclimbing** on Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:41 pm

Kap, I'll try to IM you sometime tomorrow. But I may forget, like I did today.
So if you see me online, send me something to remind me :roll:

by **the.killing.44** on Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:43 pm

wcaclimbing wrote:But I may forget, like I did today.

See what happens when you forget? A certain something stops you from IMing him later

.
Anyways, I've chatted with wcac and we'll get the .psd ASAP.
gimil how is the whole re-authorizing (hehe that's a pun 8-[

) thing gonna work?

.44

by **gho** on Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:50 am

The Brig, Uri, Ticino are looks a bit confusing. Does Ticino border Uri? If not wouldnt it make the game a bit more interesting if they did? And does North East Switzerland really deserve the 5, or should it be 4 like the rest? I like the open style of this map, with lots of continent borders.

by **pamoa** on Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:15 am

Uri and Ticino do connect!
Sankt Gothard Pass is one of the major pass in Europe.
The control of this pass between northern Europe and Italy is one of the reason Switzerland was founded in 1291.

by **wcaclimbing** on Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:07 am

Ok. I have the PSD.
we're just waiting for gimil to get one of the admins to change the first post so I can edit it.

by **the.killing.44** on Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:53 am

Yep, I got the XML done:

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A rough to-do list for us tomorrow:

move some borders around
move some names around (this and ^ are to accomodate 100s mostly)
clarify Thurgau-Scheffhausen connection
clarify Bienne-Bern connection
get rid of mt. dots
extend Vaud mts. a bit North
change "North-East Switzerland" to "Northeast …"

We'll be keeping the main style of graphics (so gimil doesn't have to slaughter us 8-[

)

.44

by **pamoa** on Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:34 am

the.killing.44 wrote:... extend Vaud mts. a bit North...

please don't do so it would be geographically incorrect

Click image to enlarge.

by **RjBeals** on Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:34 am

That image is so beautiful as it is. We should just quench that!

by **pamoa** on Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:46 am

you can't it's copyrighted by goggle

by **gimil** on Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:46 pm

Guys, jsut my opinion but....

You have teh gameplay stamp for this map and it is close to being graphics stamped. I know pamoa you want the map to be as geographically accurate as possible. However it seems that Swiss geography balances the map to less favourable gameplay. It may not be perfect but I suggest we go with what we have and try and get this moving to the forge. Kap has earned it with this map and it is unfair how long we has been sitting here.

by **pamoa** on Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:37 am

As it is for is fine but not with more mountain in the north...
and btw the geography is not very accurate as the river design is a bit invented.

by **gimil** on Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:12 am

pamoa wrote:As it is for is fine but not with more mountain in the north...
and btw the geography is not very accurate as the river design is a bit invented.

Pamoa I think we are going to have to sacrafice for geographic accuracy for the sake of the gameplay and getting this map finished. Unless the geography can be changed without messing the gameplay.

by **wcaclimbing** on Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:34 pm

I'm gonna get this moving in a few days.
I'm figuring out Kap's PSD right now, learning how he did stuff.
Shouldn't take too long.

by **wcaclimbing** on Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:21 pm

I'm cleaning up the graphics a bit. Its still the same map, no major changes, just making things more visible and a bit easier to understand.

to-do list
1. change mountains.
2. change river.
3. fix all the confusing borders.

I'll try to get an update out tomorrow night.
But you guys know how updates go with maps I create. So maybe it'll be the next day or the day after.

by **wcaclimbing** on Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:19 pm

Here's a bit of an update.
I cleaned up parts of the map that were bugging me, I think its a bit easier to read now.

THE MOUNTAINS AND THE RIVER ARE NOT SHOWN ON THIS VERSION. I'M JUST POSTING IT TO SEE IF YOU GUYS ARE OK WITH WHAT I'VE DONE SO FAR. THE MOUNTAINS AND RIVER WILL BE PUT BACK LATER (and they will look better)
^because I know someone is going to post asking why there aren't any mountains^

here's my image:
EDIT: I just realized that none of my territory names are centered above the glow that is supposed to be behind them. oops :oops:

Click image to enlarge.

and here's Kap's original to compare mine with.

Click image to enlarge.

So what do you guys think?

by **the.killing.44** on Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:20 pm

Where are the mountains?

In all seriousness, I'm gonna chat with you

.44

by **Kaplowitz** on Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:22 pm

It looks really nice and clean!
Personally I dont like the font and the bright text with the darkish map, but thats really just a personal thing and i dont care what u guys do to it...

gl!