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Re: San Marino - Map on p1 & 12 - VOTE IN POLL - U: 09.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:30 am
by Ruben Cassar
RjBeals wrote:Ruben - I'm not to crazy about your background here. The faded photo with a plaster type filter used on it kinda feels cheap. I know San Marino is surrounded by Italy - so have you thought of adding a non playable map around this one, kind of like I did for Italy? I think it would really help this map visually. You could keep San Marino raised from the background with a drop shadow, or bevel?

You need to change your Torri symbols in the legend to match the map.

I see a white line at the very top of the map - like the background image didn't extend far enough.

If you decide not to change the background, I think your light green legend background clashes with the greyish background image. Have you experimented with different colour schemes?

Oh - and I still think the blue words in your legend are too close in colour. It's hard to tell which region they are referring to. Your region colors look good.


Hi RJ. I'll start answering your points in sequence. :)

[*] Hmm. I don't know about the background RJ. San Marino is surrounded by Italy. Your Italy map is surrounded by many states which have borders and a shape. I don't think it would work in this case unless you have some suggestion? I could only add a very very minute portion of Italy which has no shape or border and that doesn't make sense to me. What do you think?

[*] The torri symbols will change once I set up the torri poll. People need to choose which version they want. I have a selection of 5. Don't worry this is being taken care of.

[*] Hmm hadn't noticed it. Maybe it's a result of the bevel effect or something. I'll try to fix it.

[*] I'm not satisified with the legend box either. I'll do some work on it as well.

[*] Blue words? You mean the region names?

Thanks for your comments RJ. Always appreciated.

Re: San Marino - Map on p1 & 12 - VOTE IN POLL - U: 09.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:59 am
by ZeakCytho
I'm against making the background Italy for many of the reasons Ruben has laid out already. It'd be plain and boring. But, I don't really like the current background either. Maybe you could mess with the filters/layer effects/whatever to make it look different? I do like the image you're using, just not the way it's been presented.

Re: San Marino - Map on p1 & 12 - VOTE IN POLL - U: 09.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:19 am
by RjBeals
Maybe a call out box?
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Maybe add some rivers?
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Maybe just do something crazy?
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Re: San Marino - Map on p1 & 12 - VOTE IN POLL - U: 09.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:53 pm
by gimil
Which rivers do you prefer? (Check the maps on page 1 for a comparison)

Poll runs till Sun May 11, 2008 9:36 am
You may select 1 option

Version 1.18a
9
56%

Version 1.16
7
43%


Total votes : 16

Re: San Marino - Map on p1 & 12 - VOTE IN POLL - U: 09.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:19 pm
by Ruben Cassar
RjBeals wrote:Maybe a call out box?

Maybe add some rivers?

Maybe just do something crazy?


Thanks for your suggestions RJ. I'm still undecided but I'll give it some thought. The 3rd option looks ugly. The 1st one is not so bad. We'll see.

Re: San Marino - Map on p1 & 12 - VOTE IN POLL - U: 09.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:25 pm
by Ruben Cassar
Torri Poll

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These are the 6 options for the "Torri" (towers) bonus to choose from in the poll.

Re: San Marino - VOTE IN NEW POLL - Updated: 10.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:58 pm
by Ruben Cassar
Version 1.19 - New format for the title and redesign of the map legend and bonus boxes.
Click image to enlarge.
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Re: San Marino - VOTE IN NEW POLL - Updated: 10.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:57 pm
by ZeakCytho
I like the title, but not the bonus box. I feel it should have rounded corners.

Re: San Marino - VOTE IN NEW POLL - Updated: 10.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:12 am
by Ruben Cassar
ZeakCytho wrote:I like the title, but not the bonus box. I feel it should have rounded corners.


That's a minor issue but I actually prefer it the way it is.

On a separate note I'd like to see more people vote for the "torri" poll before making that graphical change. The poll closes on Wednesday.

Re: San Marino - VOTE IN NEW POLL - Updated: 10.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:07 pm
by AndyDufresne
ZeakCytho wrote:I like the title, but not the bonus box. I feel it should have rounded corners.

It does seem to oddly clash with the rest of the uniformity.


--Andy

Re: San Marino - VOTE IN NEW POLL - Updated: 10.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:12 pm
by Ruben Cassar
AndyDufresne wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:I like the title, but not the bonus box. I feel it should have rounded corners.

It does seem to oddly clash with the rest of the uniformity.


--Andy


Yes, but things don't necessarily need to be always uniform. I don't think it's such a big issue or an eye sore.

Apart from that any further comments?

Re: San Marino - VOTE IN NEW POLL - Updated: 10.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:24 am
by oaktown
I think this may be my last concern about the bonuses... I continue to feel that on a small map you have to be careful about setting bonuses too high. I'm cool with everything but Borgo Maggiore; a +6 for five territories? I know it's going to get hammered on every side and by every player, but I still think it's a bit steep. Anybody else think a +5 would be more appropriate? (If not, tell me and I'll back off.)

Out of curiousity, have you run this through one of the excel spreadsheets that calculate bonuses? The one I use is:
http://h1.ripway.com/rparodi/BonusCalc_Oaktown.xls

Re: San Marino - VOTE IN NEW POLL - Updated: 10.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:13 am
by Ruben Cassar
oaktown wrote:I think this may be my last concern about the bonuses... I continue to feel that on a small map you have to be careful about setting bonuses too high. I'm cool with everything but Borgo Maggiore; a +6 for five territories? I know it's going to get hammered on every side and by every player, but I still think it's a bit steep. Anybody else think a +5 would be more appropriate? (If not, tell me and I'll back off.)

Out of curiousity, have you run this through one of the excel spreadsheets that calculate bonuses? The one I use is:
http://h1.ripway.com/rparodi/BonusCalc_Oaktown.xls


Hehe. Actually only you and I have commented on the bonuses so far. The other users did not have any feedback to give about that issue. I am not sure about Borgo Maggiore. Maybe you're right because Serravalle has only 4, but Borgo Maggiore will be impossible to hold as well so a +6 might be a decent reward. :-k

I did not even know that there were excel sheets that calculated the bonuses! I will check that one out. Thanks.

Re: San Marino - VOTE IN NEW POLL - Updated: 10.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:59 am
by cairnswk
I went with A in your poll as it corresponds to the symbol used in your round emblem. :)

Re: San Marino - VOTE IN NEW POLL - Updated: 10.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:21 pm
by Ruben Cassar
cairnswk wrote:I went with A in your poll as it corresponds to the symbol used in your round emblem. :)


Thanks for your vote cairns.

If the result remains so close I will have to extend the duration of the poll. It was planned to close tomorrow. We'll see.

Re: San Marino - VOTE IN NEW POLL - Updated: 10.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:44 am
by Ruben Cassar
I have decided to extended the poll for another two days until Friday since the results are so close.

Re: San Marino - Updated: 15.05.2008 [I]

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:06 am
by Ruben Cassar
Ok seeing that the torri poll was level between option A and D I decided to choose the one that I preferred most. Here is the latest update.

Version 1.20 - New torri bonus images, Borgo Maggiore bonus down to 5
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Re: San Marino - Updated: 15.05.2008 [I]

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:20 am
by gimil
Those towers looks tonnes better :)

Re: San Marino - Updated: 15.05.2008 [I]

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:26 am
by bryguy
Ruben Cassar wrote:Ok seeing that the torri poll was level between option A and D I decided to choose the one that I preferred most. Here is the latest update.



look at the poll, right now the one u chose is winning ;)

Re: San Marino - Updated: 15.05.2008 [I]

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:57 pm
by Ruben Cassar
gimil wrote:Those towers looks tonnes better :)


I'm glad you like them...and also a bit surprised that you wrote "tonnes" properly! :)

Re: San Marino - Updated: 15.05.2008 [I]

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:58 pm
by Ruben Cassar
bryguy wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:Ok seeing that the torri poll was level between option A and D I decided to choose the one that I preferred most. Here is the latest update.



look at the poll, right now the one u chose is winning ;)


Hehe. Yes, just noticed that.

Now all I need are some stamps from oak and gimil! 8-)

Re: San Marino - Map on p1 & 12 - VOTE IN POLL - U: 09.05.08 [I]

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:57 pm
by MrBenn
Ruben Cassar wrote:Torri Poll

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These are the 6 options for the "Torri" (towers) bonus to choose from in the poll.

I voted for C - it was a toss-up between that and D.
The perspective on A looks a little wrong.

Re: San Marino - Updated: 15.05.2008 [I]

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:09 am
by gimil
Which image do you prefer for the "Torri" bonus? Images can be seen on page 1 and 13.

Poll runs till Fri May 16, 2008 6:24 pm
You may select 1 option

A
8
47%

B
1
5%

C
2
11%

D
6
35%

E
0
No votes

F
0
No votes


Total votes : 17


Re: San Marino - Updated: 15.05.2008 [I]

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:37 am
by MrBenn
MrBenn wrote:The perspective on A looks a little wrong.

I didn't realise that you'd gone with A before I voted - but it looks better on the map than I thought it would.
The only thing that bugs me is the straight/flat line on the bottom... could you add a 1 or 2 px feather to the bottom edge just to soften it?

Re: San Marino - Updated: 15.05.2008 [I]

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:45 am
by Ruben Cassar
MrBenn wrote:
MrBenn wrote:The perspective on A looks a little wrong.

I didn't realise that you'd gone with A before I voted - but it looks better on the map than I thought it would.
The only thing that bugs me is the straight/flat line on the bottom... could you add a 1 or 2 px feather to the bottom edge just to soften it?


Hi Ben. Yes the poll had been going on for a while and I even extended it by a couple of days since A and D were very close. I will try to refine the bottom edge in the next update. Thanks.