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Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:58 pm
by Gilligan
natty_dread wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
natty_dread wrote:Yeah this is really strange, I have no idea what caused it...


It happened at the same time as they introduced clickable maps. There was nothing wrong with it before that. I can say that with almost 99% certainty, because I played a South Africa turn about half an hour before the clikable update, and another one about 10 minutes after that.
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It has nothing to do with clickies. The error is in the XML.


I didn't touch the XML. Let alone every coordinate by the same distances in the same directions.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:11 am
by natty dread
Gilligan wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
natty_dread wrote:Yeah this is really strange, I have no idea what caused it...


It happened at the same time as they introduced clickable maps. There was nothing wrong with it before that. I can say that with almost 99% certainty, because I played a South Africa turn about half an hour before the clikable update, and another one about 10 minutes after that.
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It has nothing to do with clickies. The error is in the XML.


I didn't touch the XML. Let alone every coordinate by the same distances in the same directions.


I haven't identified what causes this to happen yet, but it is certain that the distorted coordinates are actually in the xml. I don't know how it is possible.

Go look at it in the map inspector, http://www.conquerclub.com/mapmaker/index.php it shows that the coordinates are wrong even there.

What you need to do is fix the coordinates in the xml.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:05 am
by ender516
Is it possible that one of the tools used for editing the XML was running in a browser at a zoom level other than 100% and got confused? I, for one, have not used chipv's Map XML Wizard in that way, but I could see someone changing the zoom to fit the whole large map and the toolbox onto the screen without overlap. Maybe the point conversions get messed up in that situation.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:03 pm
by Gilligan
ender516 wrote:Is it possible that one of the tools used for editing the XML was running in a browser at a zoom level other than 100% and got confused? I, for one, have not used chipv's Map XML Wizard in that way, but I could see someone changing the zoom to fit the whole large map and the toolbox onto the screen without overlap. Maybe the point conversions get messed up in that situation.


The thing is, it worked when the first map went live. Then BOOM it felt like not working.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:17 pm
by natty dread
It's a very odd phenomenon. Perhaps the internet is becoming sentient and is trying to communicate with us by messing with XML files?

Quick, someone compare the messed up coordinates to the real ones. Perhaps we can discern a message by analyzing the pattern of differences.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:38 am
by natty dread
Ok, what's the holdup here, why are the coords still messed up?

It's kinda annoying in the games.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:54 pm
by Gilligan
natty_dread wrote:Ok, what's the holdup here, why are the coords still messed up?

It's kinda annoying in the games.


No one ever followed up on what the issue was.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:59 am
by natty dread
The issue is, you need to fix the coords on the xml, and then post the updated xml.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:49 am
by Mazzicc
This map needs it's borders more clearly drawn so that you don't put troops in one zone thinking you can attack what appears to be bordering it, only to find out you can't. It cost me a game :( I hate when the borders aren't clear.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:24 pm
by Gilligan
Using Jota's assistant again, it screws it up even more. I made sure the length and width are correct, and they were. Entered coordinates and this is what I get. They are all still off proportionally. I'm about to leave the house, so I'll figure it out when I get home, I'm posting this to keep you in the loop.

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Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:33 pm
by natty dread
Try the XML wizard. I fixed the coords on transsib with it.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:52 pm
by MrBenn
Please can somebody have a look at getting the xml finished... Thank you!!

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:36 am
by Gilligan
MrBenn wrote:Please can somebody have a look at getting the xml finished... Thank you!!


Working on it...Although I have work today 10-5 and class 6-10:30...so it'll have to be tomorrow!

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:43 am
by Mageplunka69
just please invite me when you need a tester

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:41 pm
by Gilligan
Here's the new XML...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/14 ... fricaFinal

Here's the coordinates...

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Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:53 pm
by MrBenn
Thanks Gilly ;-)

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:02 pm
by Gilligan
Updated XML is live :)

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Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:25 pm
by MrBenn
And we're done ;-)

              Quenching

---The Beta period has concluded for the South Africa 1885 Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready to be released into live play.

Congratulations Industrial Helix and Gilligan, your shiny new medals are well-earned =D>


Conquer Club, enjoy!
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--MrBenn

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:40 pm
by Riskismy
Grats Helix!

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:51 pm
by Industrial Helix
Thanks folks... another map under mah belt. Hope all enjoy!

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:24 pm
by natty dread
Congrats IH, it's a pretty map well done. =D>

Now get to work with the russian revolutions ;)

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:53 am
by Gilligan
Grats Helix :)

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Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 12:20 pm
by phantomzero
2011-05-31 17:19:17 - phantomzero deployed 3 troops on Rustenburg
2011-05-31 17:19:20 - phantomzero assaulted Pretoria from Rustenburg and conquered it from Terry Nutkins
2011-05-31 17:19:30 - phantomzero ended the turn

Visually I don't see that Pretoria and Rustenburg have a border. Am I missing something or is this a mistake?

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 12:29 pm
by Leehar
phantomzero wrote:2011-05-31 17:19:17 - phantomzero deployed 3 troops on Rustenburg
2011-05-31 17:19:20 - phantomzero assaulted Pretoria from Rustenburg and conquered it from Terry Nutkins
2011-05-31 17:19:30 - phantomzero ended the turn

Visually I don't see that Pretoria and Rustenburg have a border. Am I missing something or is this a mistake?

The black partially dotted lines are the borders and even though the mountain stretches into the region it doesn't cut Pretoria in half, so the little bit above the fort is also part of 'Pretoria". The fort is inside the region and isn't separate as you assume?

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:21 am
by phantomzero
Leehar wrote:
phantomzero wrote:2011-05-31 17:19:17 - phantomzero deployed 3 troops on Rustenburg
2011-05-31 17:19:20 - phantomzero assaulted Pretoria from Rustenburg and conquered it from Terry Nutkins
2011-05-31 17:19:30 - phantomzero ended the turn

Visually I don't see that Pretoria and Rustenburg have a border. Am I missing something or is this a mistake?

The black partially dotted lines are the borders and even though the mountain stretches into the region it doesn't cut Pretoria in half, so the little bit above the fort is also part of 'Pretoria". The fort is inside the region and isn't separate as you assume?


I see now. Sorry, it was my first time on the map.