Conquer Club

cairnswk wrote:I should be back to this one in about a fortnight after RL issues get moved along

Work has started on this one again, finishing land plots, adding large black trees atop buggy stops etc. New version should be finished in a couple of days.

Version 22.
Ground contouring complete, addition of house styles
Because i have changed computers a new font has appeared

That's a nice font, and the grounds look fine. So, are you not adding texture to the Accusers, Accused, Judges, or Reverends, just the Landowners?

ender516 wrote:That's a nice font, and the grounds look fine. So, are you not adding texture to the Accusers, Accused, Judges, or Reverends, just the Landowners?

Yes i think just the Landowners ender516, although i'm sure about the colours yet.

I've always thought that the text on the legend, or mapboard areas, would look much better with some sort of outline stroke.


--Andy

AndyDufresne wrote:I've always thought that the text on the legend, or mapboard areas, would look much better with some sort of outline stroke.
--Andy

I'll see about this Andy, thanks

The eyes man..you still haven't work on the eyes, old man!

gimil wrote:The eyes man..you still haven't work on the eyes, old man!

Oh yes i have young man, and taking shots of my eyes to put in there were appaulling.
But i will get to them soon, so be patient.

gimil wrote:The eyes man..you still haven't work on the eyes, old man!

*Gasp!* This is libel! Where's the Old Man's Union?!

-Sully

cairnswk wrote:

gimil wrote:The eyes man..you still haven't work on the eyes, old man!

Oh yes i have young man, and taking shots of my eyes to put in there were appaulling.
But i will get to them soon, so be patient.

Yes...I am being patient. But do you remember you reminded me to remind you to remember to do them if you didn't remember to do them?

gimil wrote:

cairnswk wrote:

gimil wrote:The eyes man..you still haven't work on the eyes, old man!

Oh yes i have young man, and taking shots of my eyes to put in there were appaulling.
But i will get to them soon, so be patient.

Yes...I am being patient. But do you remember you reminded me to remind you to remember to do them if you didn't remember to do them?

Yes i remember, but i simply haven't made or had the time to to do them, but i am remembering i have to do them.
Thank-you however, for keeping your part.

Version 23
1. Eyes have been fixed, not mine - I didn't have the skill to use my photos and adapt the same as the originals, so these will have to suffice.
2. The map fonts have been highlighted with black backing.

Eyes look good now.

I find the black backing on the fonts too strong, especially under the names of the Accusers. I much prefer any of the looks on Version 22, where the backing was lighter (see Ann Putnam Jr) or where there was no backing at all (Ezekial Cheever, William Hobbs). Granted, with white text, it may be better with a backing than without (compare Ann Putnam Jr with Edward Putnam), but really, the text without the backing works well enough, and you could use a dark text for the Accusers (Johnathon Putnam).

natty_dread wrote:Eyes look good now.

Good!

ender516 wrote:I find the black backing on the fonts too strong, especially under the names of the Accusers. I much prefer any of the looks on Version 22, where the backing was lighter (see Ann Putnam Jr) or where there was no backing at all (Ezekial Cheever, William Hobbs). Granted, with white text, it may be better with a backing than without (compare Ann Putnam Jr with Edward Putnam), but really, the text without the backing works well enough, and you could use a dark text for the Accusers (Johnathon Putnam).

AndyDufresne wrote:I've always thought that the text on the legend, or mapboard areas, would look much better with some sort of outline stroke.
--Andy

ender516, i did the whole lot in response to above from Andy, I have not done the legend areas.
Perhaps those accusers only need the backing text lightened as you say, i'll see.
I'd prefer to have some consistency with the front text being all white, so the background will have to be manipulated.

here is V24...

1. I have added highighting to the legend as per Andy's request.
2. I've removed the black background to those accessued and accussers texts
3. added some small representation of an image from the trials that does not interfere with the overall map to give it some historical flavour
4. i wanted to do something with the legend also but thought it would be better to leave that area alone.

Preview of XML - uncentered

The texts have serious legibility issues. It was more clear in V22.
Some ideas:

- Dark red on dark blue is dangerous.
- Side stats / legends would do better with a black / dark blue drop shadow.
- the shadow could be less sharp, on both region names and legend.
- Keep it consistent.
- Perhaps add a little letter-spacing to all texts.

I have to agree with ndrs on the text. V22 was easier to read.

I think I have to put my vote again for the style in V22, with a light grey backing for all territory texts being my favourite. It definitely does not look right with the landowners having a backing and the accused and accusers having none. The emphasis seems reversed.

ndrs wrote:The texts have serious legibility issues. It was more clear in V22.
Some ideas:

- Dark red on dark blue is dangerous.
- Side stats / legends would do better with a black / dark blue drop shadow.
- the shadow could be less sharp, on both region names and legend.
- Keep it consistent.
- Perhaps add a little letter-spacing to all texts.

isaiah40 wrote:I have to agree with ndrs on the text. V22 was easier to read.

ender516 wrote:I think I have to put my vote again for the style in V22, with a light grey backing for all territory texts being my favourite. It definitely does not look right with the landowners having a backing and the accused and accusers having none. The emphasis seems reversed.

Thanks guys for your comments..
This is V25...i've done all the map text the same, and fixed up the external bits.

Nice! It's legible now.

Yes, this text is looking good. It does seem, however, that the shadows under some of the rotated texts, most notably C. Blake, J. Raymont, and J. Trask, are not as prominent, making them appear to be flatter on the map as compared to other texts which float nicely above it, casting shadows.

ender516 wrote:Yes, this text is looking good. It does seem, however, that the shadows under some of the rotated texts, most notably C. Blake, J. Raymont, and J. Trask, are not as prominent, making them appear to be flatter on the map as compared to other texts which float nicely above it, casting shadows.

ender516, i've fixed those offending territories by reverting the angle to 0, adjusting the drop shadow to the same as the straight texts, and then instating the angle to the text.
Version 26. - i've made both sides opacity the same under the legend.

That has improved the text. Now, don't let anyone tell you that the shadows are wrong, because they come from a different light source.
Sadly, I just noticed that the red bonus values at the far right are hard to make out: 5s and 6s are particularly difficult to distinguish, and 3s could be 8s. The word Bonuses, above, is pretty clear. Perhaps that style of text would work for the numbers? (The +2 on the far side of the map deserves the same fix.)