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Re: Baltic States [8/26] V31 P30 Small Map ready??

Postby Bruceswar on Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:11 pm

isaiah40 wrote:Bruce go ahead and get the following items done:

1. Small Map
2. Color Blind tests
3. Map with starting neutrals and starting amounts
4. Both maps with the 888 numbers on them

Update the OP with the above as well as the current page, and either RB0 or myself will take a look at everything.



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Re: Baltic States [8/26] V31 P31 Small Map Time!

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:05 am

Version 31 Large with 888's

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Version 31 Large with Neutrals

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Version 31 Large with No numbers at all

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Color Blind Test 1:

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Color Blind Test 2

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Version 31 Small 888's

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Version 31 Small No Numbers

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Changes: Some borders were shifted around to make way for the 888's on the small map. Lots of moving of numbers, and small minor fixes.
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Re: Baltic States [8/26] V31 P31 Small Map Time!

Postby RedBaron0 on Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:08 pm

The only thing I'm seeing that's an issue is the yellow of Suvalkija is the same as the yellow army numbers.
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Re: Baltic States [8/26] V31 P31 Small Map Time!

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:42 am

Still looks good.
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Re: Baltic States [8/26] V31 P31 Small Map Time!

Postby Bruceswar on Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:12 pm

RedBaron0 wrote:The only thing I'm seeing that's an issue is the yellow of Suvalkija is the same as the yellow army numbers.


I can fix that easy :) Let me do a color swap and see what you think.
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Re: Baltic States [8/26] V31 P31 Small Map Time!

Postby RedBaron0 on Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:22 pm

With the tides of change come additional requirements. Since this map began its journey under the assumption that 8 being the maximum amount of player, I won't ask the map be totally reworked to accommodate this, however, please note that a player cap may need to be imposed should it be discovered and/or deemed that the map can't handle player amounts over 8.

Also note that there are 5 new army colors, 4 totally new and a different shade of green for player #2. Please take this into account when doing graphics testing. All HEX codes are as follows:

    Red: FF0000
    Green: 006400
    Blue: 0000FF
    Yellow: FFFF00
    Pink: FF00FF
    Cyan: 00FFFF
    Orange: FF9922
    Silver: C0C0C0
    Purple: 9400D3
    Lime: 00FF00
    Amber: CD5C5C
    Olive: 688E23

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Re: Baltic States [8/26] V31 P31 Small Map Time!

Postby Bruceswar on Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:41 am

I should have an update this weekend.
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Re: Baltic States [7/27] V29 P29 Small Map ready??

Postby iancanton on Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:34 am

Bruceswar wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:I am still not sure about the trees there. Though I guess it could be done.

Go with some trees. I would also go one further than ian and add some trees at Cesis to block that territ from Madona and Gulbene. My reason is one purely from a players stand point. I love the maps that give you choices and force you to make decisions on a way to go. But I will leave this extra one to you to decide on.

I would be ok with the first suggestion... the 2nd is ugh too much

bruce, u've said that u're not keen on the cesis trees, but are we still awaiting a delivery of trees for limbazi?

a spelling mistake to fix: letgale ought to be latgale.

http://www.latgale.lv/en/

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Re: Baltic States [7/27] V29 P29 Small Map ready??

Postby Bruceswar on Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:22 pm

iancanton wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:I am still not sure about the trees there. Though I guess it could be done.

Go with some trees. I would also go one further than ian and add some trees at Cesis to block that territ from Madona and Gulbene. My reason is one purely from a players stand point. I love the maps that give you choices and force you to make decisions on a way to go. But I will leave this extra one to you to decide on.

I would be ok with the first suggestion... the 2nd is ugh too much

bruce, u've said that u're not keen on the cesis trees, but are we still awaiting a delivery of trees for limbazi?

a spelling mistake to fix: letgale ought to be latgale.

http://www.latgale.lv/en/

ian. :)



Trees will stand as they are.. Update to come soon.
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Re: Baltic States [7/27] V29 P29 Small Map ready??

Postby iancanton on Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:03 pm

iancanton wrote:with 6 border regions to defend, the riga bonus is too hard for a +5.

without more trees, u'll need to find some other way to fix the small differential between the easiest and hardest latvian bonuses, for example by increasing riga to +6 at the same time as decreasing zemgale to +1, otherwise the riga bonus is destined to be ignored in most games.

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Re: Baltic States [8/26] V31 P31 Small Map Time!

Postby Bruceswar on Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:32 am

I will give it some thoughts. :)
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Re: Baltic States [8/26] V31 P31 Small Map Time!

Postby Bruceswar on Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:18 am

Version 32:

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What is new:

  • New Yellow color
  • Fixed The Legend Spelling


What is left?
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Re: Baltic States [8/26] V31 P31 Small Map Time!

Postby Seamus76 on Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:49 am

Bruceswar wrote:Version 32:

What is left?

Looks really good to me. Just a couple of small nitpicks:
- Jurbarkas could be moved over a bit to the right on both maps.
- Maybe fix the border that touches the end of Marijampole.
- I still think the dark inner bonus shading is a bit too much, mainly on the bottom three bonus areas (Samogitia, Auks'tatia, and Suvalkija). Since you haven't really acknowledged my two previous mentions I take it you are sticking with this, but for me, I would like to see those bottom three lowered in opacity a bit, or even blur them all out rather then just a "square" shade. Either way its just a matter of the eyes opinion, and I think the maps is very nice. Great work Bruce.
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Re: Baltic States [8/26] V31 P31 Small Map Time!

Postby Bruceswar on Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:14 pm

Seamus76 wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:Version 32:

What is left?

Looks really good to me. Just a couple of small nitpicks:
- Jurbarkas could be moved over a bit to the right on both maps.
- Maybe fix the border that touches the end of Marijampole.
- I still think the dark inner bonus shading is a bit too much, mainly on the bottom three bonus areas (Samogitia, Auks'tatia, and Suvalkija). Since you haven't really acknowledged my two previous mentions I take it you are sticking with this, but for me, I would like to see those bottom three lowered in opacity a bit, or even blur them all out rather then just a "square" shade. Either way its just a matter of the eyes opinion, and I think the maps is very nice. Great work Bruce.



I can move the name. . You are right.

What about the border??

I will check into it and see what I can do to make it blend more. Not saying that I will go with it.
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Re: Baltic States [8/26] V31 P31 Small Map Time!

Postby Seamus76 on Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:57 pm

Bruceswar wrote:
Seamus76 wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:Version 32:

What is left?

Looks really good to me. Just a couple of small nitpicks:
- Jurbarkas could be moved over a bit to the right on both maps.
- Maybe fix the border that touches the end of Marijampole.
- I still think the dark inner bonus shading is a bit too much, mainly on the bottom three bonus areas (Samogitia, Auks'tatia, and Suvalkija). Since you haven't really acknowledged my two previous mentions I take it you are sticking with this, but for me, I would like to see those bottom three lowered in opacity a bit, or even blur them all out rather then just a "square" shade. Either way its just a matter of the eyes opinion, and I think the maps is very nice. Great work Bruce.



I can move the name. . You are right.

What about the border??

I will check into it and see what I can do to make it blend more. Not saying that I will go with it.
And not that you have to. You should absolutely go with whatever you like best. I just like more of a blended under border. And just to be clear, I'm talking about the shading that goes around each of the bonus borders, i.e. the shading that goes around Suvalkija, and Auks'tatia, etc.

I know it's two layers, a darker one and a lighter one that extends further, the darker one seems very square and rigid. I'm not saying to blur them out would look better, but it might.
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Re: Baltic States [9/30] V32 P31 Small Map Time!

Postby Bruceswar on Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:46 am

Version 33:

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What is new:

  • Fixed the border slightly around Marijampole
  • Jurbakas named moved to fit better.
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Re: Baltic States [8/26] V31 P31 Small Map Time!

Postby Bruceswar on Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:49 am

Seamus76 wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
Seamus76 wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:Version 32:

What is left?

Looks really good to me. Just a couple of small nitpicks:
- Jurbarkas could be moved over a bit to the right on both maps.
- Maybe fix the border that touches the end of Marijampole.
- I still think the dark inner bonus shading is a bit too much, mainly on the bottom three bonus areas (Samogitia, Auks'tatia, and Suvalkija). Since you haven't really acknowledged my two previous mentions I take it you are sticking with this, but for me, I would like to see those bottom three lowered in opacity a bit, or even blur them all out rather then just a "square" shade. Either way its just a matter of the eyes opinion, and I think the maps is very nice. Great work Bruce.



I can move the name. . You are right.

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I will check into it and see what I can do to make it blend more. Not saying that I will go with it.
And not that you have to. You should absolutely go with whatever you like best. I just like more of a blended under border. And just to be clear, I'm talking about the shading that goes around each of the bonus borders, i.e. the shading that goes around Suvalkija, and Auks'tatia, etc.

I know it's two layers, a darker one and a lighter one that extends further, the darker one seems very square and rigid. I'm not saying to blur them out would look better, but it might.



To further answer... I am going to leave it as is. I like the look is uniform. I guess this is a personal decision. :)
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Re: Baltic States [9/30] V33 P32 Graphics Stamp??

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:12 am

1st Post Updated to add the needed images.
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Re: Baltic States [9/30] V33 P32 Graphics Stamp??

Postby Oneyed on Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:21 am

nice.
I just do not like shadows inside borders. the shadows in sea looks fine.

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Re: Baltic States [9/30] V33 P32 Graphics Stamp??

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:32 am

Oneyed wrote:nice.
I just do not like shadows inside borders. the shadows in sea looks fine.

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Difference of opinion I think. I happen to like the shadows... the add depth
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Re: Baltic States [9/30] V33 P32 Graphics Stamp??

Postby Armandolas on Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:28 am

The shadow dont bother me much, maybe only Vireland shadow, should be a bit lighter

Your name and fox should be smaller and and less proeminent.too bright. Remove stroke?
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Re: Baltic States [9/30] V33 P32 Graphics Stamp??

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:09 am

Armandolas wrote:The shadow dont bother me much, maybe only Vireland shadow, should be a bit lighter

Your name and fox should be smaller and and less proeminent.too bright. Remove stroke?



Without the stroke it looks very odd. I did test that idea, but it did not look good. I happen to like the name sizes. While some map makers do not like the whole name in lights on the map, some do. I wish to keep this one like so.

As for the vireland, I cannot lighten one or it will look out of place. :) Thanks for comments.
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Re: Baltic States [9/30] V33 P32 Graphics Stamp??

Postby Armandolas on Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:42 am

i dont mind u have your name there.Its nice to know its creator, i just think its more proeminent than the map itself ate the first sight
I know u should be proud of your map, it looks nice. Your names dont look nice there.Too big, too close to border,to shiny
In my opinion it should be near the credits,buut its just my opinion. I respect your work ;)
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Re: Baltic States [9/30] V33 P32 Graphics Stamp??

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:24 am

Armandolas wrote:i dont mind u have your name there.Its nice to know its creator, i just think its more proeminent than the map itself ate the first sight
I know u should be proud of your map, it looks nice. Your names dont look nice there.Too big, too close to border,to shiny
In my opinion it should be near the credits,buut its just my opinion. I respect your work ;)



I totally get what you are saying. Normally I would agree with you, but this one I want to have the names pop!
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Re: Baltic States [9/30] V33 P32 Graphics Stamp??

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:02 pm

Bruceswar wrote:
Armandolas wrote:i dont mind u have your name there.Its nice to know its creator, i just think its more proeminent than the map itself ate the first sight
I know u should be proud of your map, it looks nice. Your names dont look nice there.Too big, too close to border,to shiny
In my opinion it should be near the credits,buut its just my opinion. I respect your work ;)



I totally get what you are saying. Normally I would agree with you, but this one I want to have the names pop!

You can still have the names pop, but turning the black glow down would help give them pop without becoming overwhelming.
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