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Kingdom of Denmark [Quenched]

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:32 am
by Flapcake
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Map Name: Kingdom of Denmark
Mapmaker(s): Map Graphic and Gameplay By Flapcake --- XML By Koontz1973
Number of Territories: 62
Number of bonus areas: 10
Number of cities with shields: 5
Special Features: Victory, claim any 4 cities with a shield and hold it for one round. Cities with shields autodepoly +2 troop. 2 normal areas (searute) always start with 1 neutral.

What Makes This Map Worthy of Being Made: Denmark is a small country but with so many islands its hard to conquer

History of Denmark (short version) Never any civil wars, occupied by Nazi Germany 1940-1945. Many wars with Sweden and Germany. From about year 960 it has been a kingdom, included Norway, Island and some of sweden untill 1848 where Denmark have been like it is today.

Im sure that Denmark would be a fun game, with so many territorys, borders and small islands it could be a long lasting and hard game for all.
The reason I like the idea that you can win by keeping all 5 cities with a shield is to make it harder to keep a bonus area and perhaps give players more inclined to attack each other. I'm not crazy with games that is over in 4-5 rounds, it's boring, I find it much more entertaining to play games that last long due to the tough obstacles, it is somewhat what I'm trying to find in the game Kingdom of Denmark.

GAMEPLAY

Territories:
62 areas in total
5 areas always starts with 3 troops neutral (cities with shields = København, Odense, Esbjerg, Århus and Ålborg)

Bonuses:
10 Bonus Areas

Nord jylland 2
Øst jylland 5
Vest jylland 3
Midt jylland 6
Syd jylland 5
Sønder jylland 3
Fyn 4
Øst sjælland 5
Syd sjælland 4
Vest sjælland 6

Autodeploy + 2 troop, all cities with shields = København, Odense, Esbjerg, Århus and Ålborg.

Distribution of troops:

2 player - 19 territs each - drop of 6
3 players - 19 territs each - drop of 6
4 players - 14 territs each - drop of 4
5 players - 11 territs each - drop of 3
6 players - 9 territs each - drop of 3
7 players - 8 territs each - drop of 3
8 players - 7 territs each - drop of 3

København, Odense, Esbjerg, Århus and Ålborg always starts 3 neutral.
Kattegat and Østersøen always starts 1 neutral.

obstacle and atack ways:
There is only one positioned obstacle (trees), in addition, the sea and rivers helps to create natural obstacles.
There are 2 different ways to cross the water between the territories, sail rutes and bridges.

Victory:
When any 4 cities with shields are hold for one round by 1 player (not team) victory is gain.

Final map: V42 - 08-Feb-2012
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XML
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/20/3280817/kingdomofdenmark.xml

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<map>
<objective>
<name>Four Cities</name>
<components>
<territory>Ålborg</territory>
<territory>Århus</territory>
<territory>Esbjerg</territory>
<territory>Odense</territory>
<territory>København</territory>
</components>
<required>4</required>
</objective>
<continent>
<name>Nord Jylland</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Skagen</territory>
<territory>Brønderslev</territory>
<territory>Ålborg</territory>
<territory>Thisted</territory>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Vest Jylland</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Holstebro</territory>
<territory>Herning</territory>
<territory>Viborg</territory>
<territory>Skive</territory>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Øst Jylland</name>
<bonus>5</bonus>
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<territory>Aars</territory>
<territory>Randers</territory>
<territory>Silkeborg</territory>
<territory>Århus</territory>
<territory>Djursland</territory>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Midt Jylland</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
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<territory>Skjern</territory>
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<territory>Ikast</territory>
<territory>Skanderborg</territory>
<territory>Horsens</territory>
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</components>
</continent>
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<name>Syd Jylland</name>
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<territory>Billund</territory>
<territory>Vejen</territory>
<territory>Kolding</territory>
<territory>Fredericia</territory>
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<territory>Kalundborg</territory>
<territory>Slagelse</territory>
<territory>Korsør</territory>
<territory>Næstved</territory>
<territory>Haslev</territory>
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<territory>Præstø</territory>
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Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:36 am
by Victor Sullivan
I'll admit, Denmark hasn't had a map of its own yet! That being said, I don't really get the "war between municipalities" vibe. But this is a step in the right direction! Always glad to see a new mapmaker. Stick with it!

-Sully

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:17 am
by Flapcake
well, the map is more devided in county as bonus areas. "war between municipalities" in Denmark we have so many political parties, ( about 13 ) always figthing for influence, maby I should have said, "it could be what this map is about", there is not realy a theme, just conquer Denmark ;)

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:07 am
by natty dread
Your map image is way too large, there's no need for those dimensions with so few territories.

Your legend is also unnecessarily large. It's half the image and there isn't even so much information in it to justify the size.

I think you can well fit this map into the standard 800x800 size, or less.

Also, your borders look chopped and hasty... what software are you using?

Here's a lesson on effective space usage:

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Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:20 pm
by Flapcake
well yes i know, it got to be scaled down, but i think your way of cutting it wont work, sry :|

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:00 pm
by ironsij0287
Flapcake wrote:well yes i know, it got to be scaled down, but i think your way of cutting it wont work, sry :|


Any reason why it won't work? It looks like it would just fine.

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:56 am
by Flapcake
ironsij0287 wrote:
Flapcake wrote:well yes i know, it got to be scaled down, but i think your way of cutting it wont work, sry :|


Any reason why it won't work? It looks like it would just fine.



The ferry and the train is gone, im working on a solution for that

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:40 am
by tokle
Why do you include Flensburg and Malmo? They're not in Denmark.

The ferry and the train seem a bit superfluous. What is the point of having the two killer neutrals protecting that one inconsequential territory?

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:37 am
by jcarter1
interesting concept... my main suggestions for changes are for the legend at the moment:

1) +1 auto deply when holding a city: most of your spots are cities... i am sure you mean only the ones that have a banner in it, but there is slight potential it MIGHT be confusing for people

2) i would change the text about flensburg and malmo to following: "Flensburg and Malmo: +1 autodeploy, not part of any bonus" (if you prefer the more text version, change "is" to "are" at least since its plural)

3) Capture all citys, include Flensburg and Malmo for one round to claim victory: Again the problem with citys... change to something like: "Victory: Hold all cities with banners, Flensburg and Malmo for one round!" ("citys" with "ie")

I am also not sure if like like those two neutral zones covering this one red area, but it seems this has already been adressed above.

keep up the good work,

jc

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:49 pm
by Flapcake
tokle wrote:Why do you include Flensburg and Malmo? They're not in Denmark.

The ferry and the train seem a bit superfluous. What is the point of having the two killer neutrals protecting that one inconsequential territory?



The reason for Malmö and Flensburg, is because there live so many Danes there, eg. they speaks German just as well as Danish in south Jutland, and I thought it might give a little with some areas that are outside the bonus areas.

Bornholm is an island which has always been somewhat isolated but strategically placed in the Baltic Sea, this is not so diffrent than the Third crusade with the English Channel.

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:55 pm
by Flapcake
jcarter1 wrote:interesting concept... my main suggestions for changes are for the legend at the moment:

1) +1 auto deply when holding a city: most of your spots are cities... i am sure you mean only the ones that have a banner in it, but there is slight potential it MIGHT be confusing for people

2) i would change the text about flensburg and malmo to following: "Flensburg and Malmo: +1 autodeploy, not part of any bonus" (if you prefer the more text version, change "is" to "are" at least since its plural)

3) Capture all citys, include Flensburg and Malmo for one round to claim victory: Again the problem with citys... change to something like: "Victory: Hold all cities with banners, Flensburg and Malmo for one round!" ("citys" with "ie")

I am also not sure if like like those two neutral zones covering this one red area, but it seems this has already been adressed above.

keep up the good work,

jc


Thanks for your input, I find your 3 points very useful and i take a look at those things ;)

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:36 pm
by tokle
Flapcake wrote:
tokle wrote:Why do you include Flensburg and Malmo? They're not in Denmark.

The ferry and the train seem a bit superfluous. What is the point of having the two killer neutrals protecting that one inconsequential territory?



The reason for Malmö and Flensburg, is because there live so many Danes there, eg. they speaks German just as well as Danish in south Jutland, and I thought it might give a little with some areas that are outside the bonus areas.

Bornholm is an island which has always been somewhat isolated but strategically placed in the Baltic Sea, this is not so diffrent than the Third crusade with the English Channel.

On Third Crusade the english channel is protecting a bonus area. Which also has a direct attack route to the east.
On your map Bornholm is a part of a bonus, and doesn't yield anything on its own.

I'm not disputing Bornholm's historic importance, just that it is not particularly important to the gameplay on this map, the way it's drawn out at the moment.

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:31 pm
by Victor Sullivan
Well, Bornholm does balance out Sydsjælland. 7 territories with 3 borders would be a little tricky to value otherwise.

-Sully

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:44 pm
by The Bison King
[MOVED]

This is looking really good. Please make a 840x800 draft when you get the chance. For what it's worth I agree with Tokie in that the train and ferry seem a bit extraneous. If you can find a way to keep them go ahead, but if not I really don't think you'll be losing much in terms of a gameplay addition.

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:49 pm
by Victor Sullivan
Victor Sullivan wrote:Well, Bornholm does balance out Sydsjælland. 7 territories with 3 borders would be a little tricky to value otherwise.

-Sully

D'oh! I was looking at Natty's draft. I think you could follow suit, though, and drop the train and ferry as TBK said.

-Sully

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:01 am
by Flapcake
tokle wrote:
Flapcake wrote:
tokle wrote:Why do you include Flensburg and Malmo? They're not in Denmark.

The ferry and the train seem a bit superfluous. What is the point of having the two killer neutrals protecting that one inconsequential territory?



The reason for Malmö and Flensburg, is because there live so many Danes there, eg. they speaks German just as well as Danish in south Jutland, and I thought it might give a little with some areas that are outside the bonus areas.

Bornholm is an island which has always been somewhat isolated but strategically placed in the Baltic Sea, this is not so diffrent than the Third crusade with the English Channel.

On Third Crusade the english channel is protecting a bonus area. Which also has a direct attack route to the east.
On your map Bornholm is a part of a bonus, and doesn't yield anything on its own.

I'm not disputing Bornholm's historic importance, just that it is not particularly important to the gameplay on this map, the way it's drawn out at the moment.


Tolke, thx for your input, i have worked on that issue, and know thers a long way still.

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:17 am
by Flapcake
New update !
Changes

1. Reduced map size to 800x800

2. Resized the text field

3. Removed the train + ferry, made the atack rute direct for Bornholm from only Sydsjælland and Malmø

Issuses im workin on:

Cleaning the borders.
text for the info bord.
color set.

Thanks for all your inputs, its very usefull. and im looking forward for more comments :D

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Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:17 am
by Flapcake
After thinking carefully over all of your good and useful comments, I have made following changes:

1. Flensburg and Malmö are dropped, Denmark is already strategic difficult to move around in, so I can see that it does not need to be more difficult.

2. The boundaries have been drawn up and purified.

3. Text box was a bit confusing, I hope that it is better to understand now.

Things I need to do: Attack routes, troop placement areas, some effects around, so it's not as boring to watch.


Feel free to give some feedback :P
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Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:16 am
by natty dread
What software are you using?

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:27 am
by zimmah
looks like gimp to me.

this map starts to look better then the first drafts.

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:37 am
by Flapcake
natty_dread wrote:What software are you using?


Im using Photoshop.

there is a degradation of quality when the picture is uploaded to ImageShack, it is much more clear and clean on my hard drive

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:06 am
by natty dread
The degradation is because you're saving as a low-quality JPEG. Try a PNG or high-quality JPEG instead.

Still, the degradation doesn't explain the pixelation on the borders. I don't know photoshop, but perhaps someone who does can tell you how to draw smooth borders with it...

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:16 am
by isaiah40
First of all, what version of Photoshop? Secondly,what are you using to draw the outlines? To me it looks like you are using a pencil. Try using a brush instead to do the outlines. I like to use a 3px brush for the map outline and bonus borders, and a 2px brush for the territory borders. Take a look at my Fractured China map to see what I mean about the map outline and borders.

If you have any questions, please feel free to pm me anytime. :)

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:53 am
by Flapcake
natty_dread wrote:The degradation is because you're saving as a low-quality JPEG. Try a PNG or high-quality JPEG instead.

Still, the degradation doesn't explain the pixelation on the borders. I don't know photoshop, but perhaps someone who does can tell you how to draw smooth borders with it...


Iam using high-quality JEPG and it looks fine when called from my hard drive but from imageshack it looks reduced.

Re: Denmark map draft

PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:56 am
by Flapcake
isaiah40 wrote:First of all, what version of Photoshop? Secondly,what are you using to draw the outlines? To me it looks like you are using a pencil. Try using a brush instead to do the outlines. I like to use a 3px brush for the map outline and bonus borders, and a 2px brush for the territory borders. Take a look at my Fractured China map to see what I mean about the map outline and borders.

If you have any questions, please feel free to pm me anytime. :)


im using CS4 and yes i did use pencil 1pix but did a 0.4 blur at the end. im trying a brush as you recomend but 3pix seems heavy, du you reduce picture size at the end ?