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Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:54 amby thenobodies80
To be honest it's clear and well drawn, but it has nothing to do with the rest of the map. In my opinion there's not enough "road references" in your current theme to put that kind of road sign.
When I asked you to add an explanation for the impassable, you told me that add it was like ruin the balance of the map (and i don't think it is in that way).
Well, add those signs is much worse in my opinion, have them alone on the map, without anything else to create link with the road/road signs theme, is certainly a sort of eyesore!
Nobodies
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:23 amby natty dread
I'm inclined to agree with you on this nobodies... I just wanted to try it out.
I think, barring any complaints, the version on the first page is the one we should go to beta with.
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:00 pmby Victor Sullivan
natty_dread wrote:I'm inclined to agree with you on this nobodies... I just wanted to try it out.
I think, barring any complaints, the version on the first page is the one we should go to beta with.
Good call, I think.
-Sully
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:10 pmby thenobodies80
---The
Final Forge period has concluded for the
Classic Cities: London Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry
and I hereby brand this map with the
Foundry Beta Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for
BETA Play. After an extended period of time in
BETA and once all quirks and issues have been resolved, the map will be put into
Full Play (barring any Lack vetoes).
Conquer Club, enjoy! While the map is in BETA Play, there are a couple of administrative tasks that are required of the mapmaker(s) in addition to the initial gameplay testing: 1. Please ensure that the first post of the thread contains all the necessary information to help future visitors to the development thread; it's particularly important to ensure the most recent images are there, along with any helpful guides (such as gameplay quirks/nuances or the location/size of any starting neutrals etc.)
2. Finally, it is the responsibility of the mapmaker(s) to ensure that they respond to further feedback in a timely and constructive manner.
thenobodies80
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:54 pmby Flapcake
Congratulations
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:39 pmby Pedronicus
I think the No Entry signs made more sense on the impassable's.
but of course an Italian gets to have the final say, because he's got a blue bold font username.
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:59 pmby thenobodies80
i have no final say, the map is going to be uploaded (Beta), not quenched. It can be changed again if natty finds something that works with the map and that he likes.
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:16 pmby natty dread
Pedro, I made the decision not to go forward with the no entry signs, so be angry with me if you need to...
If this map was drawn in a more conventional style, then your suggestion for the traffic cones, or the traffic sign impassables, would have been a great idea and either would probably have worked great. However, the map is drawn in a sort of abstract style - it's kind of reminiscent of subway maps and other public transportation maps, or that's the look I was taking inspiration from... so I just think it's best to keep the style clean, simple and straight-forward for this.
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:33 pmby Pedronicus
ok. if your happy with it. cool.
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:10 amby natty dread
It is live!
Game 10491254 - password: foundry
Everyone welcome.
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:42 pmby Bruceswar
Just finished my first game on it. Plays nice for doubles.
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:25 pmby BadgerJelly
just curious ... why does the first image look better than the latest one?
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:49 pmby AndyDufresne
I've got a couple of 1vs1 games going on it, and plays alright so far. Nothing glaringly unbalanced from my few games.
--Andy
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:38 pmby natty dread
BadgerJelly wrote:just curious ... why does the first image look better than the latest one?
No idea what you mean.
AndyDufresne wrote:I've got a couple of 1vs1 games going on it, and plays alright so far. Nothing glaringly unbalanced from my few games.
--Andy
Good to hear.
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:43 pmby DiM
natty_dread wrote:BadgerJelly wrote:just curious ... why does the first image look better than the latest one?
No idea what you mean.
this
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:38 pmby AndyDufresne
natty_dread wrote:AndyDufresne wrote:I've got a couple of 1vs1 games going on it, and plays alright so far. Nothing glaringly unbalanced from my few games.
--Andy
Good to hear.
Whoops, that was a lie. I meant to post this in the Istanbul topic. But I now have some London 1vs1 going too. My apologies.
--Andy
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:40 pmby natty dread
Oh... that?
Well, that didn't really work out thematically. It was too generic in style, and really had nothing connecting it to London, it didn't look like a city map. So the map took a different turn in development.
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:46 amby BadgerJelly
So it went from looking like a reasonable map to a pile of shit and got made?
Seriously WHO makes these decisions???
You have made a great map now I see but I struggle to understand how THIS map can be made above others. Has what is required for a map changed since this one was brought out? In which case I can understand it.
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:20 amby natty dread
BadgerJelly wrote:So it went from looking like a reasonable map to a pile of shit and got made?
Seriously WHO makes these decisions???
Well, lucky to me, it isn't you
BadgerJelly wrote:You have made a great map now I see but I struggle to understand how THIS map can be made above others. Has what is required for a map changed since this one was brought out? In which case I can understand it.
Well, not everyone can like the same things, I guess. All I can say is if you don't appreciate the visual style of this map, you can aspire to do better.
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:03 pmby BadgerJelly
Fair point
Just because I don't like the look doesn't mean others do. Just much prefered your FIRST draft myself ... it is personal preference though.
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:39 pmby natty dread
I had to make a slight graphical change - to get the background closer to the colour I intended it to be... this is such a minor change though that I'd rather wait to see if there are any other changes needed before uploading these.
- Click image to enlarge.
- Click image to enlarge.
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:09 pmby MrBenn
BadgerJelly wrote:So it went from looking like a reasonable map to a pile of shit and got made?
Seriously WHO makes these decisions???
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:28 amby chapcrap
Everything seems good to me.
I wouldn't mind if City was changed to an autodeploy. That's just a preference thing though.
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:03 amby natty dread
I don't really see any reason for changing the city bonus. I think it works fine as is.
Re: Classic cities: London [16.12.11] p22
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:04 amby thenobodies80
natty, I think this one is supposed to be a quick map, maybe good also for 1vs1 games. a thing I've noticed is that there're many games in which everything is done in 3 or 4 rounds. Usually if the first player to play had a good drop in the west side there's nothing you can do to stop him. You're done from the start, stop.
Have you considered a way to prevent this? I know drop percentages are ok and rarely a player start with north or west, but I have the feeling that the drop in 1vs1 games can be managed better....maybe set 2 positions , or have different starting values on some regions.....I still have to focus a way to fix this....but start a game and discover you lost it from the start is pretty disappointing.
On the contrary the city bonus seems good as it is to me.
Thoughts?
