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Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:03 am
by gimil
Hi natty,

This has a much more 'British' feel to it now. A few graphical points while you wait on getting this moved by those that run the drafting room.

The British flag contrasts with the Big Ben watermark. I would suggest making the flag similar in tone and transparency to big ben for graphical consistency. You know what I mean?

Also the bonus legends could probably be moved to the bottom right corner to utalise the dead space in that area, also the legends could probably be colour coded with the map for ease of reference (and so they look prettier).

Finally I ain't digging the Font choice for the title. With the semi-British theme you have going on I think a hand writing font would fit the theme much better, perhaps 'Monotype Corsiva'. Let me know what you think.

Nice work,
gimil

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:10 am
by gimil
p.s. if you are up for downloading font this look like a winner for your map.

http://www.dafont.com/mk-british-writing.font

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:19 am
by MoB Deadly
This map looks great so far!

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:20 am
by isaiah40
[MOVED]

New update, moved again!! Can you please update the OP with all of the maps relative information please.

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:36 am
by koontz1973
natty_dread, nice to see you bring this one back to life. I really like the new colour scheme, getting away from the green was a great idea but South east and North Central look very similar.
North Central, can you rename it just North. Central is not used.
Why Big Ben for the background, I have no problem with it but a lot of people will just ask, so I might as well be first.
Gimil said it, but the title font looks really bad (like something a dog with a bad tummy would do).

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:40 am
by Seamus76
Very nice work natty, as usual.

I agree with Koontz, the SE and N do look similar, especially Haringey and Camden. They look very much like the SE, and event different than Barnet and Enfield.

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:41 am
by gimil
koontz1973 wrote:Why Big Ben for the background, I have no problem with it but a lot of people will just ask, so I might as well be first.


Big Ben, is London's most prominent and well known landmark.

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:45 am
by koontz1973
gimil wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:Why Big Ben for the background, I have no problem with it but a lot of people will just ask, so I might as well be first.


Big Ben, is London's most prominent and well known landmark.


That is debatable.

But as I said, it is natty's choice but like all maps with these landmarks on, people will say why that one.

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:52 am
by gimil
koontz1973 wrote:
gimil wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:Why Big Ben for the background, I have no problem with it but a lot of people will just ask, so I might as well be first.


Big Ben, is London's most prominent and well known landmark.


That is debatable.

But as I said, it is natty's choice but like all maps with these landmarks on, people will say why that one.


How is that debatable?

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:01 am
by koontz1973
Simple, when I think of London, I think of many many things, Big Ben is only one of them, but I am not the right person to ask as I am to close to my home city. As an exercise, I will ask my kids at school tomorrow and see what they come up with.

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:48 am
by Herbas
Maybe it's just me, but I prefer when bonuses are listed in a mini-map with numbers instead of a text list.

Just like this one:
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With so many maps nowadays it's more and more difficult to remember how one or another region is called.

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:01 am
by gimil
Herbas wrote:Maybe it's just me, but I prefer when bonuses are listed in a mini-map with numbers instead of a text list.


That could work also, natty.

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:48 am
by Pedronicus
If you want a proper London font - get the London Underground font

http://www.fonts101.com/fonts/view/Unca ... ondon.aspx

If anyone suggests anything different, get them to pm me and i'll gladly tell them to f*ck off all day long.

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:51 am
by ViperOverLord
The map's okay for gaming purposes. I don't think it really capture's any of the city's personality though.

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:55 am
by Pedronicus
Oh, and while I'm here.

Rename
North Central - north
North East - East

this is how they are know in London

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:59 am
by natty dread
Wow, lots of feedback. Thanks guys. It's nice that so many people are interested in this map.


So, I tweaked the bonus colours for now. I think they should now be distinct enough.

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So, let's see... what else?

- title font: I think it fits the map, but I'm not opposed to experimenting with other fonts. Not monotype corsiva though, that's an awful and overused font. I'd rather give pedro's suggestion a shot.

- big ben: it stays. I don't see any reason to remove it.

- renaming "north central" to "north"... hm, why not. Less text on the map, yeah. Same with northeast -> east, why not.

- minimap for bonuses: maybe... I'll see if I can make one that fits the map.

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:59 pm
by natty dread
How's this title?

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Or this alternate:

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Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:05 pm
by aad0906
Menton should be Merton.
Sulton should be Sutton.

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:09 pm
by sannemanrobinson
The first title is too prominent and is not really an improvement. Smaller, more basic and more depth could work.

The second one has a kind of modern look. Something more exciting is to assemble the letters from landmarks. Like the O's could be an abstract London Eye.

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:38 pm
by gimil
Pedronicus wrote:If you want a proper London font - get the London Underground font

http://www.fonts101.com/fonts/view/Unca ... ondon.aspx

If anyone suggests anything different, get them to pm me and i'll gladly tell them to f*ck off all day long.


I think your wrong...the handwriting font I suggest would work much better for the overall theme of this map. In my opinion.

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:54 pm
by koontz1973
As you are looking at the title, may I suggest something like this...
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Not sure on the actual font but from a daily newspaper. Should look rather striking at the top.

If you do go with a hand writing font, england looks quite nice or shit happens is also good.

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:59 pm
by Victor Sullivan
gimil wrote:
Pedronicus wrote:If you want a proper London font - get the London Underground font

http://www.fonts101.com/fonts/view/Unca ... ondon.aspx

If anyone suggests anything different, get them to pm me and i'll gladly tell them to f*ck off all day long.


I think your wrong...the handwriting font I suggest would work much better for the overall theme of this map. In my opinion.

Yeah, I agree, with Big Ben and the whole color scheme, I'm not sure a modern font like you have above works well.


On a side note:
Herbas wrote:Maybe it's just me, but I prefer when bonuses are listed in a mini-map with numbers instead of a text list.

Just like this one:
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Or Portugal*** :lol: :P

-Sully

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:22 pm
by gimil
Victor Sullivan wrote:Or Portugal*** :lol: :P

-Sully


:oops:

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:19 pm
by Pedronicus
gimil wrote:
Pedronicus wrote:If you want a proper London font - get the London Underground font

http://www.fonts101.com/fonts/view/Unca ... ondon.aspx

If anyone suggests anything different, get them to pm me and i'll gladly tell them to f*ck off all day long.


I think your wrong...the handwriting font I suggest would work much better for the overall theme of this map. In my opinion.


I'm a London graffiti artist, I know what font is 'London'

Re: London [6.9.11]

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:29 pm
by Pedronicus
Street name signs around London are cool, but they change from borough to borough.
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whereas the London underground font is the same from one side of the city to the other. It is THE London wide font that doesn't change.