Trench warfare 1917 [Quenched]

by **codierose** on Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:35 pm

nuts ok will keep to 1v1 on this map hope there will be one coming up

by **Seamus76** on Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:03 pm

Great work fellas. Playing a large 8 man game, and the map is working really well.

On my 1v1 game, I'll spare you the 19 vs 20 starting terits, I'm seeing a drop of 7 troops for me and my opponent is only getting 5 on the same spots. Sorry, I'm sure this has been pointed out, or will be addressed in the next update which should be soon.

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by **Armandolas** on Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:02 pm

Hello
I think i found a serious bug in this map.
In the German Bonus GFH is included N16..which makes it impossible to get it
Hope it helped

by **thehippo8** on Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:40 pm

Armandolas wrote:Hello
I think i found a serious bug in this map.
In the German Bonus GFH is included N16..which makes it impossible to get it
Hope it helped

It's not a bug as such ... it's just that this map cannot be played in trench fog mode as it's impossible to see the hospitals (either direction) or get accross the no-man's land. Only solution I can see is to allow an easier path over the no-man's land or to have portals ... ie the planes can bombard and deploy troops?

by **alaskanassassin** on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:48 pm

thehippo8 wrote:
Armandolas wrote:Hello
I think i found a serious bug in this map.
In the German Bonus GFH is included N16..which makes it impossible to get it
Hope it helped

It's not a bug as such ... it's just that this map cannot be played in trench fog mode as it's impossible to see the hospitals (either direction) or get accross the no-man's land. Only solution I can see is to allow an easier path over the no-man's land or to have portals ... ie the planes can bombard and deploy troops?

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We are playing it with neither trench nor fog mode, but are still not receiving the bonus for the GFH bonus.

Also just curious why are hospitals a +2, but supply lines are a +3 even though they are the same difficulty and amount of regions to get?

by **Armandolas** on Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:06 am

@thehippo
Like alaskanassassin, i was playing it on sunny/no trench and you couldnt get the bonus on the german side, while u can take it on Ally side
The bonus should have 4 territories, and the bug is that on the german side it has 5 territories, the 5th being N16 wich is really far away and clearly a mistake

@alaskanassassin.
Hospitals are a much more difficult to get than Supply because u can only reach them by nearing borders , it makes them the only territories that cant be bombarded from the other side

by **codierose** on Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:20 am

thehippo8 wrote:
Armandolas wrote:Hello
I think i found a serious bug in this map.
In the German Bonus GFH is included N16..which makes it impossible to get it
Hope it helped

It's not a bug as such ... it's just that this map cannot be played in trench fog mode as it's impossible to see the hospitals (either direction) or get accross the no-man's land. Only solution I can see is to allow an easier path over the no-man's land or to have portals ... ie the planes can bombard and deploy troops?

you can cross no-mans land in trench you will find out in our game

by **thehippo8** on Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:23 am

codierose wrote:
thehippo8 wrote:
Armandolas wrote:Hello
I think i found a serious bug in this map.
In the German Bonus GFH is included N16..which makes it impossible to get it
Hope it helped

It's not a bug as such ... it's just that this map cannot be played in trench fog mode as it's impossible to see the hospitals (either direction) or get accross the no-man's land. Only solution I can see is to allow an easier path over the no-man's land or to have portals ... ie the planes can bombard and deploy troops?

you can cross no-mans land in trench you will find out in our game

Seriously? You can tell me you know ... you're so far ahead and there's a round limit anyway! Otherwise it just looks like a bug to me!

by **codierose** on Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:42 am

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i have left instructions

by **codierose** on Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:46 pm

have the new settings been implemented ??
why has deployment been spread out all over the place totally fucked the map up who the hell has heard of war when both trenches occupied by the same side.why has the planes been made so large in number Boooooooo :evil:

now how do i cancel all the games i just started totally fucked up

by **thenobodies80** on Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:12 pm

Yes, the map was updated.....afaik N16 is not part of GFH bonus.

Anyone is experiencing issues with the map with the new update?

by **koontz1973** on Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:06 am

codierose wrote:have the new settings been implemented ??
why has deployment been spread out all over the place totally fucked the map up who the hell has heard of war when both trenches occupied by the same side.why has the planes been made so large in number Boooooooo now how do i cancel all the games i just started totally fucked up

Do not worry, it will go back as soon as I find a way to balance it better, but there where so many bugs in the first one, it needed to get sorted first.

by **koontz1973** on Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:35 am

This is where I am at with the new xml for the 1v1 game.

Starting territs. All starting territs will be programmed with 1 troop only.

Neutrals. All other territs will be a 3 neutral with the planes and cannon being set higher at 7.

All I need to know is if I programme the new neutrals into the game, will that affect the current games if someone already holds it? As soon as I know this, I can post the new xml and get this back to 1v1 madness.

Flaps, you thought any more on the foxhole bonus idea I had. Making the bonus for each side only?

by **Flapcake** on Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:43 am

koontz1973 wrote:Right now, the bonus is to hold any 3. So you could hold 2 from the Germans and one from the British side to get the bonus. Why not make it hold 3 from the German or British side.

I think its a good idea, also reduse the bombardment in the cornors, so GSL4 and ASL1 cant get hit from plaines.

Il come up with a updated map soon.

by **thenobodies80** on Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:17 am

koontz1973 wrote:All I need to know is if I programme the new neutrals into the game, will that affect the current games if someone already holds it?

If the new neutrals will be killer neutrals, yes the current games will be affected (the players will lose the territories to a neutral one). A solution could be to warn players, but it's not a so big problem, afterall Beta play is at your own risk!

by **koontz1973** on Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:36 am

thenobodies80 wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:All I need to know is if I programme the new neutrals into the game, will that affect the current games if someone already holds it?

If the new neutrals will be killer neutrals, yes the current games will be affected (the players will lose the territories to a neutral one). A solution could be to warn players, but it's not a so big problem, afterall Beta play is at your own risk!

The only neutrals that would be programmed in would be on both sides. The ones in the centre stay the same. As soon as flaps get the new image up, I will get the xml finalised and posted.

Thanks nobodies and flaps.

by **Flapcake** on Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:42 am

Changes to image:

1. Fox-hole bonus, Only works when hold on same side.
2. Typo, from "Poul" to "Paul".
3. GSL4 and ASL1 can no more be bombarded.

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by **koontz1973** on Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:57 am

Fox hole bonus. Only works when held on same side.

At work, will post xml when home tonight.

by **Flapcake** on Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:12 am

koontz1973 wrote:held

corrected

by **koontz1973** on Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:49 pm

New xml to go with flaps images. All looks good but only games will tell.
Back to 2 positions. Both with 14 starting territs only with one army on each.
All other territs start as a 3 neutral.
Guns at 5
Planes at 7
Removed the 2 corner bombardments from the planes.
Fox hole bonus is now only for one side or the other.

Trenchmapv2.xml: (35.59 KiB) Downloaded 699 times

by **thenobodies80** on Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:18 am

The updated images and xml have been sent to lackattack.

by **thenobodies80** on Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:04 pm

The map was updated.
I've already warned all players of the active games about this but in case someone will miss the game chat and come here to complain you can use this post as reference:

:!:

Due to the change in continents, in the game logs, all past foxhole bonuses will appear as German even if they were Allied. :!:

Nobodies

by **codierose** on Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:21 pm

cool will try again since last changes stopped playing

by **Baby-Bjorn** on Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:36 pm

Am I missing something here? It would seem that the map does not work with the CC trench warfare option. With that option all troops are stuck on one side or the other of no mans land as you cannot cross it in one turn and it resets to neutrals every turn.

There are terts on each side that cannot be bombed so, in a 2 player game [for instance] if red wins one side and green the other and both move to the terts that cannot be bombed, you have a draw. Yes? No?

BB

by **isaiah40** on Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:34 pm

Baby-Bjorn wrote:Am I missing something here? It would seem that the map does not work with the CC trench warfare option. With that option all troops are stuck on one side or the other of no mans land as you cannot cross it in one turn and it resets to neutrals every turn.

There are terts on each side that cannot be bombed so, in a 2 player game [for instance] if red wins one side and green the other and both move to the terts that cannot be bombed, you have a draw. Yes? No?

BB

With Trench, you can continue to attack through the killer neutrals.