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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:43 pm
by pepperonibread
yeah, the ports are supposed to be like walled cities that were saved

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:56 pm
by fluffybunnykins
maybe UK should be called Scotland, as that's really all that seems to be left!
Where has Mount Snowdon gone, I wonder... probably to small to register at this scale...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:01 pm
by pepperonibread
sure, i can change that

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:03 pm
by fluffybunnykins
it'll keep all the Jocks happy, anyway!


[Jock: english derogatory slang for person of scottish origin]

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:59 pm
by jacobh
pepperonibread wrote:yeah, the ports are supposed to be like walled cities that were saved


French Polynesia is a walled city that was saved...? :roll:

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:59 pm
by jacobh
(but not Moscow?)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:07 pm
by Lt. Valerian
Wait, floating cities? What is this, Water World? Also, who would expend the resources in this post-apocalyptic world to build these things especially in the South Indian Ocean?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:47 am
by pepperonibread
Lt. Valerian wrote:Wait, floating cities? What is this, Water World? Also, who would expend the resources in this post-apocalyptic world to build these things especially in the South Indian Ocean?


first of all, its not a post-apocalyptic world. this amount of global warming would take place over hundreds of years, so its not like there are gonna be giant tidal waves that flood the coasts. and dont you think humans would EVENTUALLY see the threat and adapt a little? people could build off previously flooded islands so they wouldnt have to make the ports floating or start building off the ocean floor. and these ports wouldnt be huge cities or anything. they would be international ports for ships and aircraft. so, for my map, i took current, centralized islands and turned them into ports. and finally, in response to the comment about moscow being gone, cities like that could be saved, i just didnt see the point in putting a bunch of little major cities off the coast of every continent

and about playability. without the ports, it would just look even more like the classic map. thats actually the reason i put the ports and the uninhabitable zone in, so it would be different from classic

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:48 am
by pepperonibread
also, i need some feedback on what the bonuses should be

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:28 am
by casper
so i read from multiple sources that even if all the polar ice caps melted that sea levels would rise around 70 meters. your map looks more like a 300 meter rise. so what would make the oceans rise that much besides ice melting?

again a great site to look at... http://merkel.zoneo.net/Topo/Applet/ plug in the amount of sea level rise or fall and it will give you resulting maps for the world, europe, france, se asia, japan and korea, west coast and east coast usa.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:59 am
by fluffybunnykins
http://flood.firetree.net/
this one uses google map, so you can zoom in & out, pan, view by map, satelite photo or hybrid, etc.
You can only raise by up to 14m, though, so it might not be extreme enough for your use...
I'm still OK, where I live now, even after 14m. But where I used to live is gone in 2! Phew!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:03 am
by RobinJ
Who said this map is not original - looks pretty original to me...

Obviously, this is going to take work but the foundations are there for a great map!

(Damn - if this were to happen anytime soon in real life I will be fucked! :lol: Northern Ireland has gone! :cry: )

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:31 pm
by pepperonibread
casper wrote:so i read from multiple sources that even if all the polar ice caps melted that sea levels would rise around 70 meters. your map looks more like a 300 meter rise. so what would make the oceans rise that much besides ice melting?

again a great site to look at... http://merkel.zoneo.net/Topo/Applet/ plug in the amount of sea level rise or fall and it will give you resulting maps for the world, europe, france, se asia, japan and korea, west coast and east coast usa.


i know in real life the waters wouldnt rise so much, but only 70 meters is really small, so i made this a world where extreme global warming has taken place

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:42 am
by boberz
just t let you know im nt blown away with the idea yet sorry cant see it working for me

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:15 am
by wrightfan123
boberz wrote:just t let you know im nt blown away with the idea yet sorry cant see it working for me


Than you are really George Bush in disguise.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:39 am
by johloh
i realize youre using a mercator projection which enhances the size of antarctica, but having a global warming map with a gigantic ice sheet at the bottom bothers me...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/AntarcticaRockSurface.jpg
this image shows antarctica if the ice was removed. not taking into account sea level rise if the ice did melt...so sea level should be even higher than shown on this map!

either way id shrink down antarctica...and even if its not an accurate 'projection' id shrink it so antarctica is only in the center portion of the map, and maybe some islands that are connected instead of a large mass.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:33 pm
by DeyTa
uninhabitable isnt a word.

Habitable = People can live there
Inhabitable = People cannot live there

i think inhabitable is the word you are looking for

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:20 pm
by Lt. Valerian
Um, no, uninhabitable is most definitely a word... I think you need to check a dictionary. Habitable and inhabitable mean the same thing...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:29 pm
by hulmey
This map is very nice and i voted for it to continue by the way...

However i think you need to add something different to it...Different kind of gameplay or sumthing...

I thought of a little idea....

Whoever has the a country in the red zone loses one army every turn but if they have a country in the antartica they lose nothing...

Now it could be important to have a country in the red zone to break up continents of the other players¬!!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:01 pm
by pepperonibread
johloh wrote:i realize youre using a mercator projection which enhances the size of antarctica, but having a global warming map with a gigantic ice sheet at the bottom bothers me...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/AntarcticaRockSurface.jpg
this image shows antarctica if the ice was removed. not taking into account sea level rise if the ice did melt...so sea level should be even higher than shown on this map!

either way id shrink down antarctica...and even if its not an accurate 'projection' id shrink it so antarctica is only in the center portion of the map, and maybe some islands that are connected instead of a large mass.


yeah, thats an interesting map
i'll look into it

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:40 am
by wrightfan123
I think someone may have said this before, but you should make it so all the ports can attackone another and there's a decent sized bonus for holding them all.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:23 pm
by coconut4paws
BUMP!!!!!!!!!! Done any work on it yet??

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:26 pm
by pepperonibread
yep, im working on a version with changes you guys have suggested

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:42 pm
by coconut4paws
sweet. cant wait to play a game...

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:47 pm
by coconut4paws
are you close to finishing yet? can you show us the currnt state?