Conquer Club

Extreme Global Warming [Quenched]

Care to peruse completed maps? Take a stroll through the Atlas.

Moderator: Cartographers

Forum rules
Please read the Community Guidelines before posting.

Postby coconut4paws on Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:01 pm

I was thinking it to be more dramatic...like this, but better...

Image
You're obsessed with CC when...
codyjd wrote:When you're listening to a history lecture and think, "wow, Hitler had really good dice."
Image
User avatar
Cadet coconut4paws
 
Posts: 301
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:19 pm
Location: Im, Hungary

Postby wrightfan123 on Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:13 pm

ru serious?
User avatar
Private wrightfan123
 
Posts: 601
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:58 pm
Location: Looking over every baseball team's schedule to try to determine who will win the World Series.
Medals: 10
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (1) Assassin Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1)
Speed Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (1)

Postby DiM on Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:41 pm

i'm blind :shock:
“In the beginning God said, the four-dimensional divergence of an antisymmetric, second rank tensor equals zero, and there was light, and it was good. And on the seventh day he rested.”- Michio Kaku
Image
User avatar
Major DiM
 
Posts: 10412
Joined: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:20 pm
Location: making maps for scooby snacks
Medals: 45
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (2) Assassin Achievement (2)
Freestyle Achievement (1) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (2) Speed Achievement (1) Teammate Achievement (1)
Cross-Map Achievement (2) Ratings Achievement (3) Tournament Achievement (4) General Achievement (4) Map Contribution (10)
Tournament Contribution (4) General Contribution (3)

Postby pepperonibread on Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:19 pm

thats just... great
Image
User avatar
Corporal pepperonibread
 
Posts: 954
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:33 pm
Location: The Former Confederacy
Medals: 11
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (1) Assassin Achievement (1) Speed Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (1)
Ratings Achievement (1) Map Contribution (3)

Postby RobinJ on Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:36 am

It's starting to look really good but it still needs work I'm afraid. For example, I disagree with the 7 armies for Africa. Yes it may be split but it has only 3 borders. Antartica could be worth an extra army - almost every territory is a border. Also, some of the names aren't too clear and are the circles big enough? Despite this the map is looking good and has a lot of potential. :wink: :) :D
nmhunate wrote:Speak English... It is the language that God wrote the bible in.


Highest Score: 2437
Highest Place: 84
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class RobinJ
 
Posts: 1901
Joined: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:56 pm
Location: Northern Ireland
Medals: 13
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (2)
Cross-Map Achievement (2) Ratings Achievement (1)

Postby Jack0827 on Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:12 am

its getting alot better :D
User avatar
Private Jack0827
 
Posts: 101
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:54 pm
Location: newport news va
Medals: 3
Standard Achievement (1) Doubles Achievement (1) Triples Achievement (1)

Postby pepperonibread on Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:44 pm

i still need some feedback on exactly what you guys think the bonuses should be.
in the update, i changed them, but im still not sure
Image
User avatar
Corporal pepperonibread
 
Posts: 954
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:33 pm
Location: The Former Confederacy
Medals: 11
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (1) Assassin Achievement (1) Speed Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (1)
Ratings Achievement (1) Map Contribution (3)

Postby mibi on Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:21 pm

all of europe is under water but Bermuda is still kickin it? lol
User avatar
Captain mibi
 
Posts: 3350
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:19 pm
Location: The Great State of Vermont
Medals: 13
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (1) Map Contribution (5)
General Contribution (3)

Postby hulmey on Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:27 pm

u cant get bloody rid of the triangle!!
[img]http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9761/41922610151374166770386.jpg[/mg]
User avatar
Lieutenant hulmey
 
Posts: 3742
Joined: Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:33 am
Location: Las Vegas
Medals: 38
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (1)
Assassin Achievement (2) Manual Troops Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (2) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (2)
Trench Warfare Achievement (1) Speed Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (2) Random Map Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (3)
Ratings Achievement (2) Tournament Achievement (3) Clan Achievement (3) Tournament Contribution (4)

Postby pepperonibread on Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:54 pm

mibi wrote:all of europe is under water but Bermuda is still kickin it? lol


that's explained here

pepperonibread wrote:
Lt. Valerian wrote:Wait, floating cities? What is this, Water World? Also, who would expend the resources in this post-apocalyptic world to build these things especially in the South Indian Ocean?


first of all, its not a post-apocalyptic world. this amount of global warming would take place over hundreds of years, so its not like there are gonna be giant tidal waves that flood the coasts. and dont you think humans would EVENTUALLY see the threat and adapt a little? people could build off previously flooded islands so they wouldnt have to make the ports floating or start building off the ocean floor. and these ports wouldnt be huge cities or anything. they would be international ports for ships and aircraft. so, for my map, i took current, centralized islands and turned them into ports. and finally, in response to the comment about moscow being gone, cities like that could be saved, i just didnt see the point in putting a bunch of little major cities off the coast of every continent

and about playability. without the ports, it would just look even more like the classic map. thats actually the reason i put the ports and the uninhabitable zone in, so it would be different from classic
Image
User avatar
Corporal pepperonibread
 
Posts: 954
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:33 pm
Location: The Former Confederacy
Medals: 11
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (1) Assassin Achievement (1) Speed Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (1)
Ratings Achievement (1) Map Contribution (3)

Postby johloh on Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:12 pm

-I think the uninhabitable zone is a little too drastic and red...Id try to tone it down...it is really distracting...

-the submerged effect doesnt look quite right...those areas are now underwater, but they are 3d raised above the ocean...shouldnt they be below sea level? and the raised effect should be applied to the continents?
my new site - http://www.spritestitch.com/ - A video game craft weblog...
User avatar
Major johloh
 
Posts: 472
Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:58 pm
Location: San Francisco
Medals: 11
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (1)
Ratings Achievement (1) Map Contribution (2) Tournament Contribution (1)

Postby pepperonibread on Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:18 pm

johloh wrote:-I think the uninhabitable zone is a little too drastic and red...Id try to tone it down...it is really distracting...


i guess i could tone that down more, if everyone wants me to

johloh wrote:-the submerged effect doesnt look quite right...those areas are now underwater, but they are 3d raised above the ocean...shouldnt they be below sea level? and the raised effect should be applied to the continents?


this part is sort of like the elevation map i posted a few pages back. here, there's the regular ocean floor and the submerged areas, and then the regular continents. the submerged areas are elevated above the ocean floor, but not above the continents (so they're still below sea level), like the continental shelves in the elevation map. however, i wasnt sure how good these submerged areas looked, so they could be taken off if no one likes them
Image
User avatar
Corporal pepperonibread
 
Posts: 954
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:33 pm
Location: The Former Confederacy
Medals: 11
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (1) Assassin Achievement (1) Speed Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (1)
Ratings Achievement (1) Map Contribution (3)

Postby wrightfan123 on Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:54 pm

pepperonibread wrote:
johloh wrote:-I think the uninhabitable zone is a little too drastic and red...Id try to tone it down...it is really distracting...


i guess i could tone that down more, if everyone wants me to

johloh wrote:-the submerged effect doesnt look quite right...those areas are now underwater, but they are 3d raised above the ocean...shouldnt they be below sea level? and the raised effect should be applied to the continents?


this part is sort of like the elevation map i posted a few pages back. here, there's the regular ocean floor and the submerged areas, and then the regular continents. the submerged areas are elevated above the ocean floor, but not above the continents (so they're still below sea level), like the continental shelves in the elevation map. however, i wasnt sure how good these submerged areas looked, so they could be taken off if no one likes them


to answer your question, they look pretty cool...
User avatar
Private wrightfan123
 
Posts: 601
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:58 pm
Location: Looking over every baseball team's schedule to try to determine who will win the World Series.
Medals: 10
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (1) Assassin Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1)
Speed Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (1)

Postby boberz on Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:41 am

almost impossible to tell where one continent begins and ends
User avatar
Corporal 1st Class boberz
 
Posts: 864
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:21 pm
Medals: 8
Standard Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (1) Manual Troops Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1)
Fog of War Achievement (1) Trench Warfare Achievement (1)

Postby pepperonibread on Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:13 pm

boberz wrote:almost impossible to tell where one continent begins and ends


are you talking about the red map?
cause if you are, thats not the map
Image
User avatar
Corporal pepperonibread
 
Posts: 954
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:33 pm
Location: The Former Confederacy
Medals: 11
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (1) Assassin Achievement (1) Speed Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (1)
Ratings Achievement (1) Map Contribution (3)

Postby RobinJ on Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:20 pm

pepperonibread wrote:i still need some feedback on exactly what you guys think the bonuses should be.
in the update, i changed them, but im still not sure


My opinion:

N. America: 6
S. America: 2
Antartica: 6
Europe: 4
Africa: 6
Asia: 6
Australia: 2

However, I do realise this leaves a lot of very even continents
nmhunate wrote:Speak English... It is the language that God wrote the bible in.


Highest Score: 2437
Highest Place: 84
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class RobinJ
 
Posts: 1901
Joined: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:56 pm
Location: Northern Ireland
Medals: 13
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (2)
Cross-Map Achievement (2) Ratings Achievement (1)

Postby pepperonibread on Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:21 pm

thanks
Image
User avatar
Corporal pepperonibread
 
Posts: 954
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:33 pm
Location: The Former Confederacy
Medals: 11
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (1) Assassin Achievement (1) Speed Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (1)
Ratings Achievement (1) Map Contribution (3)

Postby Chimpy on Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:28 pm

I will note something that is scientifically incorrect with your map. If there was no ice in Antarctica, you would see something quite different than you see here. Antarctica is divided into two parts under the ice. Once the Ice melted away, Antarctica would look something like this satellite image: http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/micha ... urface.jpg
User avatar
Private 1st Class Chimpy
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:38 pm
Medals: 4
Standard Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (1)

Postby pepperonibread on Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:58 pm

in my map, antarctica is actually based on that image
if you took your image and changed it from a polar, circular view to a mercator projection, my map would correspond with it
Image
User avatar
Corporal pepperonibread
 
Posts: 954
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:33 pm
Location: The Former Confederacy
Medals: 11
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (1) Assassin Achievement (1) Speed Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (1)
Ratings Achievement (1) Map Contribution (3)

Postby Samus on Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:08 am

So, here's how the infamous formula scores your regions:

N. America: 4.83
S. America: 1.58
Europe: 4.08
Asia: 5.67
Australia: 1.75
Africa: 3.75
Antarctica: 4.33

I ran into problems because most regions don't directly border other regions in most cases, they have a port between them. So for my calculations, I considered any region within 2 steps to be "neighboring."

Asia, Europe, S. America, and Australia all came out right, and I don't think anyone was disputing those anyway.

Antarctica is close. It seems like more because of all the lines down there, but it's actually only 4 borders to 3 regions. The biggest reason I would say it should be 4 instead of 5 is that Antarctica and Australia together can be held with 3 territories.

I'm not sure what to tell you about N. America. With 9 territories and 4 borders, 5 seems right to me. Maybe other still disagree.

Obviously Africa isn't going to be represented properly because it's split. But even if we include both Tristan de Cunha and Bermuda, bringing it to 9 territories and 4 borders, it still only comes out to 4.92. I don't really think you can justify more than +5.
User avatar
Major Samus
 
Posts: 372
Joined: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:33 pm

Postby pepperonibread on Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:33 pm

cool, thanks
Image
User avatar
Corporal pepperonibread
 
Posts: 954
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:33 pm
Location: The Former Confederacy
Medals: 11
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (1) Assassin Achievement (1) Speed Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (1)
Ratings Achievement (1) Map Contribution (3)

Postby Chimpy on Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:07 am

pepperonibread wrote:in my map, antarctica is actually based on that image
if you took your image and changed it from a polar, circular view to a mercator projection, my map would correspond with it


In the image what you have labeled Sincana and Maudmark would be divided into two islands.
User avatar
Private 1st Class Chimpy
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:38 pm
Medals: 4
Standard Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (1)

Postby pepperonibread on Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:50 am

Image

you mean right here?
Image
User avatar
Corporal pepperonibread
 
Posts: 954
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:33 pm
Location: The Former Confederacy
Medals: 11
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (1) Assassin Achievement (1) Speed Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (1)
Ratings Achievement (1) Map Contribution (3)

Postby wrightfan123 on Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:17 pm

pepperonibread wrote:Image

you mean right here?


While you guys debate where the polar ice caps are going to map, ill be ranting about the Antartica bonus: rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant,
User avatar
Private wrightfan123
 
Posts: 601
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:58 pm
Location: Looking over every baseball team's schedule to try to determine who will win the World Series.
Medals: 10
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (1) Assassin Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1)
Speed Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (1)

Postby pepperonibread on Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:54 pm

wrightfan123 wrote:
pepperonibread wrote:Image

you mean right here?


While you guys debate where the polar ice caps are going to map, ill be ranting about the Antartica bonus: rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant, rant,


?
Image
User avatar
Corporal pepperonibread
 
Posts: 954
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:33 pm
Location: The Former Confederacy
Medals: 11
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (1) Assassin Achievement (1) Speed Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (1)
Ratings Achievement (1) Map Contribution (3)

PreviousNext

Return to The Atlas

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users