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Re: 4 Star Meats [17October 2012] v17 pg 27

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:22 am
by nolefan5311
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Onward and upward Dana. Congrats!!

Just don't forget to post the image with the starting neutrals in the original post.

Re: 4 Star Meats [17October 2012] v17 pg 27

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:04 am
by koontz1973
OK Dana, now for some more graphics work. Here are my main points of contention with this map as of right now. Not a very big list. ;)

Fat - give this a slight yellow and some texture. Plain white is not what fat looks like, even on posters.
This map as of right now is too large. With some moving, you can crop a lot of.
Company logo chalk board - top right.
Auto deploy specials - top left.
Prices and impassables move in a tad. This alone will let you crop right down to the frame. Make it the same size as the top part of the frame and you have a winner.
Special offer sticker - the text needs sorting. Tail tip has no corresponding region on the map (I know it is ox tail). Also, it looks scrunched up in places.
Stars are hard to see behind the 88s, and with coloured ones on, almost imposable.

Can I ask you to bung on some triple 8s so we can see the map with them incase things need to get moved around a bit. As I said, these are my main gripes now so not doing to badly then.

Re: 4 Star Meats [17October 2012] v17 pg 27

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:57 pm
by generalhead
This map looks so cool. Can't wait to play a game on it.

Re: 4 Star Meats [17October 2012] v17 pg 27

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:55 pm
by dana1971
nolefan5311 wrote:Image

Onward and upward Dana. Congrats!!

Just don't forget to post the image with the starting neutrals in the original post.


Awesome, thanks for the sticker.

One step closer. =D>

Re: 4 Star Meats [20 October 2012] v18 pg 28

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:07 pm
by dana1971
Hi all,

Here's the latest.

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koontz1973 wrote:Fat - give this a slight yellow and some texture.

Done
koontz1973 wrote:This map as of right now is too large. With some moving, you can crop a lot of.
Company logo chalk board - top right.
Auto deploy specials - top left.
Prices and impassables move in a tad. This alone will let you crop right down to the frame. Make it the same size as the top part of the frame and you have a winner.

Done
koontz1973 wrote:Special offer sticker - the text needs sorting. Tail tip has no corresponding region on the map (I know it is ox tail). Also, it looks scrunched up in places.
Stars are hard to see behind the 88s, and with coloured ones on, almost imposable.

Special offer sticker? I made it a bit bigger so the words are more legible, is that what you're talking about?
Ox Tail Tip? I don't understand this comment?
I've made a few regions larger so that the words fit more comfortably. Let me know if there are other regions you feel need more space.
I've sorted the star issue.

I look forward to feedback.

Best Wishes,
Dana

Re: 4 Star Meats [20 October 2012] v18 pg 28

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:09 pm
by koontz1973
Tai Tip in the special offer sticker, what territ does it correspond to?

Text in the sticker also needs sorting. Here is a way to do it that will look good. Type the text on a straight line with enough space in between the letters. The copy and paste each letter into the sticker. Use the rotating tool in what ever graphics programme you have to give you the angle. You will need to do this manually to get it done nice.

Fat good, size good, stars good.

Re: 4 Star Meats [20 October 2012] v18 pg 28

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:57 am
by ManBungalow
I've just noticed that you spelled 'Tongue' wrong on the sticker.

Other than that, I can't wait to play this.

And I think it's obvious which region 'tail tip' refers to.

Re: 4 Star Meats [20 October 2012] v18 pg 28

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:16 am
by koontz1973
ManBungalow wrote:And I think it's obvious which region 'tail tip' refers to.

It may be obvious to you and also to me, but to others it may not be so clear. Always best to make things clearer.

Re: 4 Star Meats [21 October 2012] v19 pg 28

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:47 pm
by dana1971
Here are the fixes. Thanks for spotting my bad spelling too. I'm not a great speller.

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OK I think I got everything graphically.

Has anyone spotted anything else? 8-[

Best Wishes
Dana

Re: 4 Star Meats [21 October 2012] v19 pg 28

PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:10 pm
by AndyDufresne
In the Special Offer text, should you add a comma after 'hooves' so it doesn't read as "Special offer on all hooves tongue and ox tail tip. ..." ?


--Andy

Re: 4 Star Meats [21 October 2012] v19 pg 28

PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:52 pm
by dana1971
Ok, no problem, I can add a comma. Anything else?

Re: 4 Star Meats [21 October 2012] v19 pg 28

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:33 pm
by iancanton
the letter N is inconsistent. sometimes, it's a proper capital N, while it's reversed at other times. i thought at first that perhaps u used the proper N stylistically only for the first letter of a word and the reversed N otherwise, but that's not the case. the inconsistency has the unfortunate effect of making u look semi-literate.

acquire has a c in it.

ian. :)

Re: 4 Star Meats [21 October 2012] v19 pg 28

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:51 pm
by dana1971
Cheers, I'll fix that too.

I am a bit illiterate.....If it wasn't for spell check I'd really be in trouble.

Best Wishes,
Dana

Re: 4 Star Meats [21 October 2012] v19 pg 28

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:10 am
by iancanton
u have enough room to write Ox Tail 2 in full, although I always thought it was Oxtail rather than Ox Tail. O.T. 2 looks a bit untidy, in a way that R. Hind Shin does not.

ian. :)

Re: 4 Star Meats [21 October 2012] v19 pg 28

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:24 am
by koontz1973
iancanton wrote:u have enough room to write Ox Tail 2 in full, although I always thought it was Oxtail rather than Ox Tail. O.T. 2 looks a bit untidy, in a way that R. Hind Shin does not.

ian. :)


Also 3 and 4 can be written in full.

Remove the ox tail is on special offer text as you do not have it for the tongue or hoof.

Re: 4 Star Meats [20 October 2012] v18 pg 28

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:09 am
by sannemanrobinson
dana1971 wrote:Hi all,
koontz1973 wrote:This map as of right now is too large. With some moving, you can crop a lot of.
Company logo chalk board - top right.
Auto deploy specials - top left.
Prices and impassables move in a tad. This alone will let you crop right down to the frame. Make it the same size as the top part of the frame and you have a winner.

Done
Dana

There can still be a lot of space saving. If autodeply specials moves under impassibles (fat barrier) then 4 star meats can be placed on the left, possibly in two lines or rotated 30 degrees. The blackboard about the 4 stars company logo could be handwriting just like is done under special offer.

Or Special offer could be under the Ox tail tip and the company logo at middle.

Re: 4 Star Meats [20 October 2012] v18 pg 28

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:46 pm
by dana1971
sannemanrobinson wrote:There can still be a lot of space saving. If autodeply specials moves under impassibles (fat barrier) then 4 star meats can be placed on the left, possibly in two lines or rotated 30 degrees. The blackboard about the 4 stars company logo could be handwriting just like is done under special offer.

Or Special offer could be under the Ox tail tip and the company logo at middle.
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Thanks for the comment sannemanrobinson.

At one point during themaps creation I did try some of your suggestions, but it looked unbalanced.
I felt the compositional elements needed a bit of room to breath on the page.

I plan to implement the other changes this weekend.

Best Wishes,
Dana

Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:58 pm
by dana1971
Here it is again. It's time to play spot the difference. :)

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I believe I've fixed the spelling mistakes and Oxtail is one word after all so I changed that too.

Spot anything else?

Best Wishes,
Dana

Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:35 pm
by AndyDufresne
Looking pretty good to me, nothing immediately jumps out. If anything does on a later look, I'll post something.

You should consider a series...4 Star Meats...and do a cannibal human next! ;) I kid, but good work.


--Andy

Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:19 pm
by RedBaron0
I forsee much colorblindness issues... hope I'm wrong. Lets see some numbers and the vischeck, please.

Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:59 am
by dana1971
Not sure what that means exactly but I'll look it up.

Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:33 am
by koontz1973
dana1971 wrote:Not sure what that means exactly but I'll look it up.

Go into foundry tools. At the top you will see a colour blind testing website. If it is not working, use your gimp filters and grab a screen shot. This way we can see if their will be problems for colour blind players.

Also, bung 888s on the map of all 8 different colours to see if they stand out enough.

Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:18 pm
by RedBaron0
what he said. ;)

Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:41 pm
by dana1971
OK, here is a version of how the map is seen by a color blind person, created using that plugin I was pointed to.

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I can see the separation of the continents, but is there enough of a difference for your average CC player?

I've done the XML code because it seems the best way to get the color numbers in there. See the image below.

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Not sure how to get the XML code to pump out 888, but hopefully there is enough there to see if the official color numbers work.
After doing the XML I noticed that the shoulder has a lot of boarders so I'm thinking of upping the Chuck continent bonus to 4 instead of 3.

Have I passed the graphics stage? Should I alter the colors?

Best wishes,
Dana

Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:24 pm
by soundman
You have a few numbers not lining up with the army circles. Plate, most of the Left Hind, and Brisket are a few that jumped out at me. Not sure if anyone else would care but that sort of thing annoys me. ;)