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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:13 pm
by spiesr
Hawai seems way too unconnected, (Can only be attacked from one which can also only be attacked by one!)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:46 pm
by AndyDufresne
Spiesr...


---Not all countries, especially continents on the edge of a map, are going to have more than one access point. Hawaii is a rather mute point. Now if Aquaria was larger, and it only had one route to get in, that would be a different story. And as it is, Aquaria has 2 border routes in..plenty for such a little area.


--Andy

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:53 pm
by Jota
AndyDufresne wrote:Really only a minor thing, have you looked into other images for the bridges?


Folks seemed more or less content with the bridges (aside from the band-aid and visibility issues, which I think I've fixed), but here are some more options:

Image

As you can see, they're generally not so great. The only one of the new four that I like at all is the arrow, since it matches the other arrows, so I could switch to that if people wanted. But otherwise, I'm inclined to just go with the "road slugs".

Also, Andy mentioned another thing to me: I haven't really been consistent over whether it's called "United States of Apocalypse" or just "USApocalypse". Before I formally picked one or the other, I thought I'd check if there was a strong preference on the forum between the two versions of the name.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:03 pm
by AndyDufresne
---Well if you only want to use the arrows or the slugs, use the slugs please! (Though I particularly like the northern most one). This reminds me of the situation in the Middle Earth map, where people disliked the red dot connectors all over the map--I feel the same way about the arrows.

---As for the name, I like the longer one for the 'official' name, but the shorter one works well for discussion and the 'Start a game' page.


--Andy

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:04 pm
by Evil Pope
Personally, I think you should stick with the United States of Apocalypse..
As for the bridges, I like the arrow.. I think you should use them instead of the "road slugs"..

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:29 pm
by reverend_kyle
Road slugs are better and so is the longer name.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:22 pm
by rocksolid
Longer name; for bridges, a variant on the Sanders bridge. The road slugs don't make me think of bridges at all.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:34 pm
by Jota
Sanders/Illinois or Sanders/Indiana?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:48 pm
by rocksolid
Sorry, Sanders/Indiana.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:39 pm
by Jota
Unsurprisingly, I suppose, opinions are completely mixed. So it looks like we'll be defaulting to the original version.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:43 pm
by AndyDufresne
---Damn free thought. ;)


--Andy

PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:14 pm
by spiesr
I suggest changes Minnesota to Mosquitoes.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:16 pm
by AndyDufresne
Or perhpas "Viks" or some variant of vikings. Really this is a mute point.

--Andy

PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:27 pm
by Jota
I think I've got about the right mix of fake/real names right now: If I tip the balance too much further, we'll start lose some of the advantage of using familiar territory.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:54 pm
by AndyDufresne
                  Quenching


The Final Forge period has concluded for the United States of Apocalypse Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for live play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!


–Andy

PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:26 am
by Haydena
I wonder how many three player games we are going to have with one player starting with all the radioactive sites and gaining 9 on the first turn... Hehe, I'd like to watch those games :twisted:

PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:33 am
by Jota
On average, one out of every 243 three-player games will start that way.

But I suspect that about two-thirds of the time, someone will take away at least one of those countries before the lucky player gets to even take one turn.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:32 am
by reverend_kyle
does that mean lack can put this up. I want to play it more than any toher map.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:20 am
by Jota
I think he was just a bit busy yesterday, between being out of town and then saving the world^H^H^H^H^Hsite and all. Hopefully he'll put it up today.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:18 pm
by General Mayhem
you really need to explain the final version and how it works somewhere please?!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:22 pm
by mrdexter
It's all their on the map. Basically continent bonuses work as per normal maps. Radiation countries have negative effect or bonuses depending on how many you have as per the map.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:51 pm
by Jota
Yeah, I thought the legends were clear enough. What else is there to explain?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:18 pm
by ChaunceyMo
How about what a radiation nexus bonus is?

2006-06-26 22:19:16 - <player> receives -2 armies for holding irradiated territory
2006-06-26 22:19:16 - <player> receives 1 armies for holding a radiation nexus

No mention of a radiation nexus on the map itself or in the legend. This was first turn, so it seems like he just got a free army for no good reason. Might be good to include an explanation of this somewhere.

/Mo

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:27 pm
by Jota
A radiation nexus is just two or more irradiated countries. The player received -2 armies and +1 army, for a total of -1 armies.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:15 pm
by kibblesmania
Jota wrote:On average, one out of every 243 three-player games will start that way.

But I suspect that about two-thirds of the time, someone will take away at least one of those countries before the lucky player gets to even take one turn.


where did u learn math? i got 1 out of 729
-solution- 3^6 (3 to the power of 6) i think u only did it for 5 counties but there is 6
3^5=243
3^6=729
sorry to all u people close to that 243rd game