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Posted: **Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:33 am**

PORTUGAL

51 countrieS

I plan on having a port in each continent to give the map more depth. looking for feedback on - size of countrys, bonuese and map detail

THANXS =)

GIMIL

Posted: **Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:42 am**

This looks a lot like Indochina.

I can say right now this map isn't going to work at that size, but I think wider, not taller is the way to go. I know it might skew things but...

Anyway! Another choice would be to cut the territories down. Not that I mind 51 territories, but everything looks really small right now.

Right now it doesn't look like you have a good chance. It's usually a good idea to get some names down for countries and have them on the map before you introduce it to the foundry. Very few maps make it without that being done right when people are first able to comment.

Posted: **Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:42 am**

quite nice, territories are a bit small and to make them larger people would have to scroll a lot
portugal is an awkward shape for cc

Posted: **Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:57 am**

long, narrow maps make for bad game play because the winner is likely to be somebody who is lucky enough to start on one end or the other... in this case it will be won by whoever starts in algarve, because it's the only continent one could conquer and hold in the first few turns.

Also, the territories are too small for names and army circles. A map this small doesn't hold 51 territories very well, and making it bigger will make it hard to play because it won't fit on a screen.

If you do continue, move the title and legend to the side so you can expand the actual map within the image area. Other than that, I have no interest in helping with this map - sorry.

What if you instead made a map of the 16th Century Portguese Empire, including settlements in Brazil and western Africa? You could have sea routes between major ports in addition to land routes. It lends itself to an old navigational chart look, like the High Seas map was going for.

Posted: **Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:28 pm**

I like the idea of a Portugal map.

For now I will only make two comments as I am a bit short on time.

First 51 territories does not sound like a good number for a CC map. Maybe 42 or 48 if you want to make a bigger than usual map.

Second the map perspective. Better make it horizontal and not vertical so that when people play it they do not have to scroll the window all the time.

Good luck!

Posted: **Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:40 pm**

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c64/Gimil_01/CCportugalmap.jpg[/img]

The bonuses are really fucked up.

Posted: **Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:42 pm**

unriggable wrote:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c64/Gimil_01/CCportugalmap.jpg[/img]

The bonuses are really fucked up.

Very helpful comment as usual unriggable. When you make these statements please do say what's wrong with the bonuses and how they can be fixed or else just refrain from commenting. This is the kind of comment that irritates me and that does not help the foundry process in any way.

Posted: **Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:39 am**

you could add both island groups Açores (9 islands) and Madeira (3)
Alentijo spells alentEjo
Lisbona is LISBOA

Posted: **Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:42 am**

bigas wrote:you could add both island groups Açores (9 islands) and Madeira (3)
Alentijo spells alentEjo
Lisbona is LISBOA

Good idea. I agree. Those are Portugal's overseas territories right?

I guess those could be added in an inset or something.

Nice to see a Portuguese poster on the foundry.

Posted: **Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:00 am**

Madeira is more to the south and only 2 islands

Posted: **Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:21 am**

bigas wrote:
Madeira is more to the south and only 2 islands

Yes...maybe he could create a territory each for the two archipelagos and then link them with the mainland to make the map less linear.

Posted: **Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:20 pm**

unriggable wrote:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c64/Gimil_01/CCportugalmap.jpg[/img]

The bonuses are really fucked up.

yeah i know i was in a bit of a hurry when i did them. only jsut noticved them.

Posted: **Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:22 pm**

TO DO list:

-Add island groups as an extra 2 territories
-Reduce countrys to 40-45
-Fix bonuese
-Alentijo to alentEjo
-Lisbona to LISBOA
-Add country names

gimil

Posted: **Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:28 pm**

gimil wrote:TO DO list:

-Add island groups.
-Reduce countrys to 40-45
-Fix bonuese

gimil

Don't forget horizontal perspective.

Posted: **Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:38 pm**

no way ma comp jsut crashed! And i was pushin on with the map lol

gimil

Posted: **Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:38 pm**

I know there is at least one river in Portugal. Maybe throw that in somewhere.

Posted: **Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:02 am**

DRAFT 2

Reduced to 32 countries and decreased the height to fit on screen

COMPLETE:

-Add island groups as an extra 2 territories
-Reduce countrys
-Fix bonuese
-Alentijo to alentEjo
-Lisbona to LISBOA
-Add country names

TO DO list:

-Possible inclusion of river

gimil

Posted: **Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:38 am**

it's small, but you can see the rivers

Name correction/sugestion

Corr.
wrong - Right
Viva real - Vila Real
Averio - Aveiro
Gaurda - Guarda
Covilaha - Covilhã
Abrebntes - Abrantes
Leina - Leiria
Maderio - Madeira
Esterlo???

Sug.
you have 2 Evora
call the one next to the border Estremoz
Castelo - covilha
covilha - coimbra
coimbra - Figueira da Foz
Santarem - Almada (since Santarem is north of Lisbon)

Posted: **Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:39 am**

Ruben Cassar wrote:
gimil wrote:TO DO list:

-Add island groups.
-Reduce countrys to 40-45
-Fix bonuese

gimil

Don't forget horizontal perspective.

Posted: **Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:42 am**

bigas wrote:it's small, but you can see the rivers

Name correction/sugestion

Corr.
wrong - Right
Viva real - Vila Real
Averio - Aveiro
Gaurda - Guarda
Covilaha - Covilhã
Abrebntes - Abrantes
Leina - Leiria
Maderio - Madeira
Esterlo???

Sug.
you have 2 Evora
call the one next to the border Estremoz
Castelo - covilha
covilha - coimbra
coimbra - Figueira da Foz
Santarem - Almada (since Santarem is north of Lisbon)

I suspected spelling mistakes lol. was taking the names from a number of maps lol.

gimil

Posted: **Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:43 am**

Ruben Cassar wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:
gimil wrote:TO DO list:

-Add island groups.
-Reduce countrys to 40-45
-Fix bonuese

gimil

Don't forget horizontal perspective.

sorry i dont know what you mean lol

gimil

Posted: **Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:48 am**

Ruben Cassar wrote:Second the map perspective. Better make it horizontal and not vertical so that when people play it they do not have to scroll the window all the time.

Good luck!

The map is currently in a vertical position. Portugal is in a vertical position. I meant kind of rotating the map to put Portugal in a horizontal position so that when a player plays the map he does not have to scroll down to access the buttons. This is an annoying feature in some of the maps when you play it in the large version.

I am assuming this is the small version of the map as making anything smaller than that would be unplayable so you will also have to produce a large version and this problem might arise. That is why I am suggesting you use a horizontal perspective. Do you understand what I mean now?

Posted: **Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:51 am**

yeah i do now. howevger with the amount of layers this has id have to move the name of every country so i wont being doing it jsut now lol

gimil

Posted: **Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:46 am**

gimil wrote:yeah i do now. howevger with the amount of layers this has id have to move the name of every country so i wont being doing it jsut now lol

gimil

I figured that you would ignore my suggestion. Hope it works out for you the same. Just trying to help out. Good luck!

Posted: **Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:59 am**

i didnt say i was ignoreing it. i said im not doing t right now.

gimil

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