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Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:03 am
by Pedronicus
The original map doesn't need a re vamp. Why the hell are you lot fucking around with someone else's original hard work and effort?

When North America first came out, it was one of the best maps ever released.

If I ever had the slightest chance of considering making a map, this sort of re vamp shit makes my mind up that It's not worth doing, because 3 or 4 years down the line some cartography brown nosing prick and his mates give it the go ahead to be re drawn. f*ck that shit and all of you idiots currently massaging Natty's ego that this project is nothing but positive.

I'm here to tell you that it's not positive. It's negative.

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:08 am
by Gilligan
Pedronicus wrote:The original map doesn't need a re vamp. Why the hell are you lot fucking around with someone else's original hard work and effort?

When North America first came out, it was one of the best maps ever released.

If I ever had the slightest chance of considering making a map, this sort of re vamp shit makes my mind up that It's not worth doing, because 3 or 4 years down the line some cartography brown nosing prick and his mates give it the go ahead to be re drawn. f*ck that shit and all of you idiots currently massaging Natty's ego that this project is nothing but positive.

I'm here to tell you that it's not positive. It's negative.


The original mapmaker gave permission for the revamp.

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:05 am
by Pedronicus
The original mapmaker probably lost the will to live, getting the original map, through the foundry process in the first place.

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:34 am
by AndyDufresne
Pedronicus wrote:The original mapmaker probably lost the will to live, getting the original map, through the foundry process in the first place.

North America was a speed demon through the original Foundry Process...mostly because there wasn't yet a Foundry Process in the early of 2006 when it was developed. ;)


--Andy

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:43 am
by crazymilkshake5
AndyDufresne wrote:
Pedronicus wrote:The original mapmaker probably lost the will to live, getting the original map, through the foundry process in the first place.

North America was a speed demon through the original Foundry Process...mostly because there wasn't yet a Foundry Process in the early of 2006 when it was developed. ;)


--Andy

Trust him. hes a primate. haha

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:40 pm
by natty dread
Pedronicus wrote:The original map doesn't need a re vamp. Why the hell are you lot fucking around with someone else's original hard work and effort?

When North America first came out, it was one of the best maps ever released.


Damn communist hippie, get out of here with your crazy ideas about peace and love...

The mapmaking process is strictly a "survival of the fittest" thing. If your map doesn't compare with the rest, then it's cut down and a better replacement will feed on it's corpse.

Or at least, that's the way it used to be before the admins started their Secret Foundry that apparently gets priority over us regular proletarian mapmakers... so I guess the current foundry model looks a bit more like crony capitalism, which is exactly why I retired from mapmaking. I can't work in an environment where shitheads who know nothing about mapmaking get priority over some map project, just because they happen to be admin's friends... and then they don't even have to follow the same rules as the rest of the mapmakers, they get Special Treatment. It's disgusting really.

But I digress. Man, this place just gets my blood pressure up, every time I come here I remember how the admin fucked me over and it just pisses me off every time... so please get this map up so I can get on with my life and say goodbye to the foundry... I don't want to come here anymore.

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:39 am
by thenobodies80
For now I've warned the players about the name changes. The files have been sent to lackattack. ;)

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:53 am
by MGSteve
Natty,

Thought I was at the end til I saw there were 4 more pages. Don't think I'll read all that.... very sleepy. Just wanna say that I really like the new look. MUCH, much better than the original, which wasn't bad itself. Love the icons and the whole works. Can't wait to play on it and my thanks to thenobodies80 for posting a link to this thread in my current game. I had no idea this was in the works.

Thanks for the great work and the great maps!

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:13 am
by AndyDufresne
Lookin' forward to this. I'm definitely go play NA a bit more now.


--Andy

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:44 pm
by thenobodies80
The map is now live!

Going to leave this thread stickied for a bit, just to ensure everything is in the right place and there are no problems with the images. ;)

I'll post the headline etc as soon as I'm at home

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:21 pm
by natty dread
Neat.

Here's a celebratory game

Game 11264784

password is ff

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:07 pm
by Hatchman
Pretty nice update, but what's with the mountains and glaciers? Those parts look bush league. Like blobs of poop someone said. But I love the Mountie etc

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:00 am
by natty dread
I think they're fine. But you're entitled to your opinion of course.

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:34 pm
by Crazyirishman
The new look is nicer, but I prefer the old clunky version of the map as it is more visually appealing to me.

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:49 pm
by natty dread
I have received feedback indicating that "French Canada" is offensive to some Canadians.

I'm therefore proposing changing the bonus area name to Atlantic Canada.

If anyone objects, speak now etc.

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:23 pm
by AndyDufresne
Thumbs up.


--Andy

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:39 pm
by thenobodies80
Natty, go with the new name.

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:35 am
by natty dread
Yep. As soon as I get around to it...

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:06 pm
by x-raider
Awesome stuff. Particularly the mascots. Congrats.

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:26 pm
by chapcrap
x-raider wrote:Awesome stuff. Particularly the mascots. Congrats.

I still don't prefer the mascots, but I probably won't play North America much anyway, so my protest is small.

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:28 pm
by natty dread
Map updated.

Image

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:04 pm
by Neoteny
This is me bitching about the map. I don't know how the old map looked, but I just hit this one on random and was so incensed that it required a meta whiny post about how terrible it is. Sorry, natty, but blech, opinion, opinion, subjective statement, insult.

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:06 pm
by Neoteny
Mostly, as someone that lives in Georgia, I'm offended to be included with Alabama.

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:12 pm
by natty dread
What are you talking about? Alabama is not even on the map.

Also, just so you know, I have a long-standing policy of not taking any advice for my maps from people who live in the area the map represents. People are always fine with small inaccuracies when they are necessary for gameplay/clarity/theme reasons, except when it comes to their homeland - then it's a horrible insult and travesty that needs to be fixed IMMEDIATELY.

Re: [Official revamp] North America

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:15 pm
by AndyDufresne
natty dread wrote:What are you talking about? Alabama is not even on the map.

I think he was making a semi-joke that Alabama and Georgia and lumped together as 'Georgia,' and he didn't want to associate with those from Alabama. :D


--Andy