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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:09 am
by gimil
the tents are to large. Im liking the quarry idea but unsure about its size thought.

and you really need to read teh 1st post. that explains that the merc camp only give a bonus if its owned with the gold mine.

However im grateful for your enthusiasim and feedback thanxs ;)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:14 am
by gimil
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this is the idea im going for with teh camp only with a few more tents and fires

its not to clear jsut now becasue the copmpression boot me up teh arse again. lol

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:26 am
by Telvannia
considering the sizes of the houses, i think you could easily make the tents bigger, i dont think that a bit of light in a clearing looks too clear. i think you make your tents the same size as the northern-most building in the southern village (the small square one), maybe have one big fire in the middle to make it more clear.

(i dont what you think about this but you could add some symbols to the map, i will post a example of symbol and what i think the quarry should look like in a minute, need to make some first.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:39 am
by d.gishman
interesting idea for a map, my only suggestion would be to redraw over the borders, they look very unnatural. it's hard to elaborate on what I mean, but the borders look weird (not the lines itself, but the borders)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:55 am
by Telvannia
here is my idea for symbols on the map shown in picture from for example the symbol for a castle, and the symbol for the camp:

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Could not do the quarry could not get it to look right, im sure you can make one anyway.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:01 pm
by DiM
no symbols. [-X

he's trying hard to make a realistic landscape, there's no point in spoiling it with symbols. :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:04 pm
by gimil
DiM wrote:no symbols. [-X

he's trying hard to make a realistic landscape, there's no point in spoiling it with symbols. :wink:


said it before me DiM lol

no symbols. This map WILL be realisitc ;)

As for the comment on teh boarders im not sure what you mean by "they look weird"

as for the tents i willincrease the aize what i put down was jsut a quick example of what i think it should be like.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:10 pm
by Telvannia
ok one other thing,

what are you planning to do about your castles, are you going to make them all the same? make some just keeps, some neo-gothic, some motte and bailly?

if i have time i might show you how i think different castles should look.
(if you are unlucky i will)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:22 pm
by gimil
i want all the castles as diffirent layouts but im trying to keep a medieval theme to it so i prefer castles with a keep and out wall within all teh estates teh largest terr is teh one that ill have the castrle in it.

i still dont know how im goign to go about doing the castles

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:42 pm
by gimil
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small merc camp in im not sure i like it yet so ill wait for some opinion to see what im going to do with it.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:56 pm
by DiM
the trees are nice.
the merc camp is not that good.


i mean a merc camp would either have tents (nomad mercs) or it would be a small wooden fortress in the middle of a forest.

i'd peronally prefer the wooden fortress. make a round wooden wall with a big fire in middle and some huts around the fire.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:00 pm
by gimil
how would a go about maknig the wooden fort?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:01 pm
by DiM
gimil wrote:how would a go about maknig the wooden fort?


i have noooooo idea what you just said :shock: :lol:

please repeat

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:07 pm
by gimil
how would i go about in the creation of a wooden lol

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:23 pm
by DiM
i'm at work and i don't have fireworks. when i get home i'll experiment and see if i can find a way. in the meantime you can also experiment.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:42 pm
by snufkin
If you go for the mercenary tents then I think they should be round or octagonal or something more romanesque.. though the palisades suggested also sound good.

rest of the map looks great!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:55 am
by Telvannia
to make a palisade i get a brown circle, then make one side lighter, and the other a bit darker, then copy and paste it to make a circle,
example shown below:
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this was done using a brown cross, then using gimp i burnt the bottom pixel and the bottom right pixel, then dodged the top pixel and the top left one, then added yellow to the middle to make it look like the wood had bu cut to make a spike.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:00 am
by gimil
can u explain that a little better it steps please i got lost reading what you wrote.

thanks.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:11 am
by yeti_c

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:17 am
by gimil
thanks yeti_c some of these ideas look good.

right now ive settled for making the legends thinknig up terr naems and identifing where everything goes so i can get this map into th emain foundry

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:15 pm
by Telvannia
here is a step by step for my wooden walls, but it is created for gimp, you might still be able to use it though, i put images in to help.
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feel free to ask questions, if it does not make sense.

I think you should have people around, would it be hard to make it a gif, and have them moving round the villages.

if i have time i might see if i can create a example.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:20 pm
by gimil
sounds good ill get onto that tonight and have an update ready for tommorow

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:08 am
by gimil
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UPDATES:
-Added terr no.
-begun merc camp
-added legends
-Reduced the size of the villages slightly

TO-DO LIST:
-finish merc camp
-Add castles
-Add gold mine
-Increase the quality and complete of the legends
-Tweek some boarders so there more visable

Each terr has a number. For teh purpose of identifing the terrs there will be a scaled down map put into the legends which will have names of sections of land that relate to teh numbers.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:15 am
by Telvannia
I like it.

how much more work are you planning to do on the camp, because the palisade does not look too good.

I think you should make the villages bigger, maybe either make the buildings bigger, or add more buildings to the villages.

Maybe add more roads and paths around the map, maybe add some fields and stuff around the villages.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:57 am
by gimil
Telvannia wrote:
how much more work are you planning to do on the camp, because the palisade does not look too good.

The camp still needs alot of work. It seem whenever i transfer the map from ma laptop to my desktop the quality chages which has resulted in the wooded post not lookign so good.

Telvannia wrote:I think you should make the villages bigger, maybe either make the buildings bigger, or add more buildings to the villages.


The vilages were made smaller becasue i want teh castle to look hugh in comparison

Telvannia wrote:Maybe add more roads and paths around the map, maybe add some fields and stuff around the villages.


Roads will be put in once i do the castles and i paln on doing extra scenery at some point.