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Postby spinwizard on Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:58 pm

hey cairns, looks great but i still dont like the parchment texture, have u concidered a different 1?
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:14 am

Version 20 Update.


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1. White drop shadow removed from tert texts - coleman
2. Thai style lettering given to title and bonus title - iancanton
3. Civilians added to the moemorial - iancanton
4. garish colours for POW camps changed to colours of the terts in those regions - yeti_c

Spinwizard - i prefer the parchment text and yes i did try others, but you are the only one to comment that they don't like it :wink:

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Postby asl80 on Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:55 am

nice update - colour changes were helpfull on the left
but, i suggest taking the blue off the top of the bridge (or make it bigger - so it doesn't look like its bordering the top rail)
hmmm, not a fan of the title and bonuses font either (the last one was good)
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Postby iancanton on Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:08 am

cairnswk wrote:Version 20 Update.
Changes:
1. White drop shadow removed from tert texts - coleman
2. Thai style lettering given to title and bonus title - iancanton
3. Civilians added to the moemorial - iancanton
4. garish colours for POW camps changed to colours of the terts in those regions - yeti_c


1. this is an improvement.
2. first time i've seen anyone attempt this! it feels in harmony with the overall design of the map, though the only other person to comment isn't in favour: is it out of step with the hard edges of the other fonts used? the problem with the font used in the version 19 title is that the only times i've ever seen something similar is when someone unfamiliar with chinese script was trying to suggest chineseness. applying the version 19 title font to thailand is therefore a bit like having kangaroos jumping all over a new zealand map! if no-one else likes the version 20 title, then the only other thing i can suggest is that, given the reference to bamboo jack, the letters are formed from stylised bamboo sticks, to give a jungle feel.
3. thanks for that.
4. non pladuk is difficult to see against the brown of the territory.

cairns, how did u come up with the shape of the map and territories? it's really original and has almost a flower-like look that softens the subject matter.

ian. :)
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Postby cairnswk on Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:32 pm

iancanton wrote:

cairns, how did u come up with the shape of the map and territories? it's really original and has almost a flower-like look that softens the subject matter.

ian. :)


Ian...i simply used imagination and what little artistic abilities i have....i also have often thought about the flower-like quality, although someone referred to it as lots of flames, and i guess the symbolism is there also. :)
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Postby onbekende on Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:54 am

cairnswk wrote:
onbekende wrote:meh :(
Sorry, onbekende, but i have no idea what you are syaing to me with this MEH statement.
my continuated referal to make the river crossings dark blue and the non-crossables light blue, because you will get people askign if they can go under the bridge (which I imagine they won't ba able too)
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Postby cairnswk on Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:39 am

Version 21 Update

1. Changed the river section colour under the bridge
2. re-worked the colours on the POW camp titles on map and in POW camps themselves.

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Postby onbekende on Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:02 am

this I like

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Postby cairnswk on Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:40 am

onbekende wrote:this I like

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Very Good :)
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Postby cairnswk on Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:52 pm

V22 Update - Resize

Had to re-size the small map down to 600px.

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Postby unriggable on Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:30 pm

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Postby DiM on Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:46 pm

in the new resized version the upper right legend case (the one with the title) looks squished. it's not straight like in the previous versions.


also on thing i noticed on the bottom right legend on the brown frame right on top of the word Bonuses there's a yellowish thing.
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Postby cairnswk on Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:39 pm

DiM wrote:in the new resized version the upper right legend case (the one with the title) looks squished. it's not straight like in the previous versions.

also on thing i noticed on the bottom right legend on the brown frame right on top of the word Bonuses there's a yellowish thing.


yeh DiM it's meant to look like a book with open pages. it's the same size as the other one, and only moved inwards to grab that 30 px from the right side.

the yellowish thing on the region legend is how the Siamese font translates in english..it's part of the N i beleive.
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Postby mibi on Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:57 pm

I think the "in memory of..." and the flow should be replaced with a short bio of just wtf this map is all about. give it some perspective.
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Postby cairnswk on Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:03 pm

mibi wrote:I think the "in memory of..." and the flow should be replaced with a short bio of just wtf this map is all about. give it some perspective.


Mibi...the In Memorium is a request and therfore will not be deleted.

i'll see what i can do about your request....just so that we can squash some more in there! :)
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Postby mibi on Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:14 pm

cairnswk wrote:
mibi wrote:I think the "in memory of..." and the flow should be replaced with a short bio of just wtf this map is all about. give it some perspective.


Mibi...the In Memorium is a request and therfore will not be deleted.

i'll see what i can do about your request....just so that we can squash some more in there! :)


maybe you can drop the memory of to the bottom instead of the URL, or not.

I just think a map as confusing as this could use a little kicker to get the player into it in the first place.
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Postby cairnswk on Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:17 pm

mibi wrote:
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mibi wrote:I think the "in memory of..." and the flow should be replaced with a short bio of just wtf this map is all about. give it some perspective.


Mibi...the In Memorium is a request and therfore will not be deleted.

i'll see what i can do about your request....just so that we can squash some more in there! :)


maybe you can drop the memory of to the bottom instead of the URL, or not.

I just think a map as confusing as this could use a little kicker to get the player into it in the first place.


uh huh...i'll see wha i can do.
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:16 am

Version 23 Update

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1. Removal of Bamboo Jack hyperlink, and replaced with Memorium section.
2. Space in book given over to introduction to gameplay.
3. Small adjustments made to river sections under Bridge.
4. Changed some names on central terts.

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Postby cairnswk on Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:10 am

No interest? No comments?
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Postby Coleman on Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:17 am

You've been Final Forge ready from my point of view for a while, it's up to the rest of the Foundry and Andy at this point for me. I've got nothing.
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Postby asl80 on Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:27 am

this is a bit of a repeat - but seen as there's not much other talk, I still reakon the water above the bridge could be fixed; maybe cut the corners of the two territories directly above the centre of the bridge, the point being to make the dark blue section look not so much like a love heart (also the dark patch to the left of Bankao isn't as dark as the other dark patches - supposed to be like that?) - it'll help the bridge look more prominent.
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Postby DiM on Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:28 am

Coleman wrote:You've been Final Forge ready from my point of view for a while, it's up to the rest of the Foundry and Andy at this point for me. I've got nothing.


QFT. this map is ready for FF as only minor nitpickings are to be discussed.

and talking about nitpickings here's one:

on the bottom at the end of the memorium you have some weird white spots.
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Postby cairnswk on Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:47 pm

DiM wrote:
Coleman wrote:You've been Final Forge ready from my point of view for a while, it's up to the rest of the Foundry and Andy at this point for me. I've got nothing.


QFT. this map is ready for FF as only minor nitpickings are to be discussed.

and talking about nitpickings here's one:

on the bottom at the end of the memorium you have some weird white spots.


Part of the background image DiM. :)
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Postby Coleman on Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:48 pm

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DiM wrote:on the bottom at the end of the memorium you have some weird white spots.
Part of the background image DiM. :)
I'd say get rid of them anyway, they are really distracting now that they've been pointed out to me. :(
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Postby rebelman on Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:49 pm

DiM wrote:
Coleman wrote:You've been Final Forge ready from my point of view for a while, it's up to the rest of the Foundry and Andy at this point for me. I've got nothing.


QFT. this map is ready for FF as only minor nitpickings are to be discussed.

and talking about nitpickings here's one:

on the bottom at the end of the memorium you have some weird white spots.


on a related point the two poppies look squashed especially the one on the right could you make them a little smaller to resolve this

also the frame of the legend in the top left corner seems to disappear and reappear again, not sure if this is down to styling or what but I think one complete frame would look better.
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