Coleman wrote:The red numbers had a much larger reaction than this one. And it was a brand new map.
This is a revamp. The numbers, despite what you are telling me, are far more legible on this map than the previous one. I can't be convinced otherwise. Andy outranks me. If he feels otherwise he can force WidowMakers to change it. I'm just saying that I will not, and that in my opinion it is fine as is.
Coleman i am many things but a lier is not one of them, I could read numbers on the last one, I cant on this one ...........fact
Have you counted the negative comments on all the threads ?
There have been more individuals criticised this than the red numbers as someone involved in both campaigns i am certain of this. But in case you do not believe me i will list them here (these are coming from 5 seperate threads)
critics (excluding me) who have issues over the readability / playability of this new map:
.Kush wrote:just plan ugly and confusing. changed the map in the middle of my game too. i dont like it at all
Dancing Mustard wrote:.Kush wrote:just plan ugly and confusing
Sounds like a pretty acurate representation to me
Risktaker17 wrote:I like the old one better.
nikola_milicki wrote:I like old one better, maybe there should be a poll to decide
D.IsleRealBrown wrote:This should have been a pole.
And Widowmakers, please GFY FTW.
AndrewB wrote:I dont like it either. It was one of my favorite maps before, now it is too busy with graphics, and I won't play it anymore.
And I did check the thread before it was quenched. But saying "I don't like it" apparently is not good enough, so I didnt bother.
Syzygy wrote:rebelman wrote:Syzygy wrote:I prefer the new style. Both maps are easily playable. I really don't see what the hell is the problem here?
see my post above it is extremely difficult to see army numbers for someone like me with not so perfect sight - although i suspect even those with good eyesight will struggle to see green army numbers in B.C.
Ah, alright. That does make perfect sense. Isn't there a colourblind option in Greasemonkey though?
But if the colourblind isn't , I'm sure widowmakers would fix that.
That good point aside, there isn't anything else bad about the map.
amazzony wrote:The Fuzzy Pengui wrote:amazzony wrote:And Canada map - it looks great! But I haven't played it so I don't know how playable it is.
The playability is the same as before...there weren't any changes to the playability, except I think there may have been a 4 way border before that has been resolved, but not 100% sure....GREAT JOB WM!
Yeah, I know, I just meant if it's harder to see the troops on some territories (like rebelman mentioned) or if some borders are more... "foggy"/harder to notice. I didn't make myself clear enough
TheProwler wrote:I don't use any plug-ins/add-ins for this site and I hope I never have to.
Can you imagine a new user to the site playing his first few games on the new Canada map? What a bad first impression. Maps like this will cost CC users and money.
It doesn't make a lot of sense to say "And to play this map, use this plug-in with this setting or this other plug-in with this setting." Why not just make the map work well without any plug-in or add-on or whatever??
Aerial Attack wrote:rebelman,
I can "see" where you are coming from. On a map like Canada v2 - the colorblind feature won't actually help you. You'll still get a letter of a color (blended into the background) that you can't differentiate from certain areas of the game map. The map fade feature of
AJAX BOB will help somewhat (so long as you don't fade too much - thanks OPie).
The biggest difference is that this is one of the few maps that does NOT use Army Circles. These usually carry either much lighter or much darker shading which gives a contrast to both the army numbers and the map area. I guess not enough people with bad eyesight visit the Foundry.
Adding army circles would definitely improve people's ability to differentiate the number of armies (not just whose armies) are in a specific location. Unfortunately, members of the Foundry [with good eyesight] thought army circles took something away from the stunning visual nature of the map.
Maybe there needs to be wording in "my settings" (near the Colorblind feature) that says "if you are in some way visually impaired, make sure to visit the foundry and comment on maps in production"
NOTE: I can see just fine (for the moment), but I definitely use BOB and the Colorblind/Map Fade features.
lord voldemort wrote:seems fair...though i dnt have any current tournys with canada...
agreeing with my suggestion to exclude this flawed map from tournies unless/until it is fixed
apologies to those I left out above I wanted to shoe coleman just a representative sample so he understood the outcry this has caused
There were several other comments in flame wars about this seriously flawed map but as this is not a flaming thread I will not repost them.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:36 pm... hot head
We'll give it a day, and see if anyone has anything to comment, and then we'll see about uploading the final version after that.
