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Do you want to have the map changed so Dust territories are given out evenly?

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Postby I GOT SERVED on Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:01 am

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I GOT SERVED wrote:Firstly, I like the progress this map is making. But I have one question.

You have one section to the left of Lubbock (Texas) that isn't named. Is this an extension of one territory? Or is it a different territory all together?


Thanks - and that is just a dead territory. Just there to keep the map flowing, however it will not be in play.


That dead territory is going to confuse a lot of people, myself included. Maybe you should merge it with Lubbock.
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Postby RjBeals on Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:22 am

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I GOT SERVER wrote:That dead territory is going to confuse a lot of people, myself included. Maybe you should merge it with Lubbock.

Naa... I think it will be more clear when the armies are on the board. If more people think it's confusing, I'll rework.

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1) I'm trying to figure a way to make impassable borders, and this is what I've come up with. I'm going to add land cracks (tying to look like dried desert cracks). My problem is I think I'll have too many cracks all over the board and it will look bad.

Since I've added color to the states, I may tone down the bold state borders to match (or closely match) the grayish territory borders. Then bolder cracks wouldn't look so bad along state lines / impassible areas. Even though i really like the state borders bold like they are now..

2) Since I've added color to the states, the inner "drought" area didn't look good as a shade of red. That gave too much color. Instead I've given red outlined army circles. I think pretty obvious - what about the rest of you?

3) Added some more +/- Bonuses. (I plan to give Texas a +5 Bonus)

4) Rewrote the explanation paragraph into my own words. I'm not the greatest at prose - anyone have suggestions.

5) Do you like my corn / crops graphic? Since I have negative bonuses, I thought it would only be fair to have additional positive bonuses. I tried to place the crops on the outer regions since that’s where there would be more water for growing crops.
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Postby I GOT SERVED on Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:15 pm

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I GOT SERVER wrote:That dead territory is going to confuse a lot of people, myself included. Maybe you should merge it with Lubbock.

Naa... I think it will be more clear when the armies are on the board. If more people think it's confusing, I'll rework.


Fair enough. The background color in the states cleared that up.

1) I'm trying to figure a way to make impassable borders, and this is what I've come up with. I'm going to add land cracks (tying to look like dried desert cracks). My problem is I think I'll have too many cracks all over the board and it will look bad.


I personally really like the cracks. Another one or two would look fine without over doing it.

2) Since I've added color to the states, the inner "drought" area didn't look good as a shade of red. That gave too much color. Instead I've given red outlined army circles. I think pretty obvious - what about the rest of you?


The red circles look fine. Although the outline was nice, I think it looks nicer like this.

3) Added some more +/- Bonuses. (I plan to give Texas a +5 Bonus)


I'd suggest giving Texas a +6 bonus. That seems better, namely because all of the border territories. I'd also suggest giving Oklahoma a larger bonus as well, also because of the border territories.
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Postby spiesr on Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:29 pm

The not territory should be the yellow color...
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Postby sfhbballnut on Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:40 pm

I think something might need to be done about the overall look, I know the idea is to make it follow the theme, but it has a sleep, kinda depressed look of the dustbowl right now, and thtat doesn't come across to well,like the idea though, keep at it
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Postby RjBeals on Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:08 pm

sfhbballnut wrote:...but it has a sleep, kinda depressed look of the dustbowl right now, and thtat doesn't come across to well,like the idea though, keep at it

Thanks for the input, but that's the look I was going for. The period was during the great "American" depression in the 1930's. I don't want bold colors. I want dull colors. In fact I didn't really want colors at all, but I had to compromise. What do you mean it doesn't come across to well - like at first glance it looks bla and boring?
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Postby RjBeals on Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:09 pm

spiesr wrote:The not territory should be the yellow color...
But then it would screw with the the shape of the actual state. People from texas wouldn't like that.
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:43 pm

I hate to say it, but I think the cracks look like tree roots...

Cracks in the ground look more like this:

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Postby RjBeals on Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:48 pm

agree... I'll work on the cracks.
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Postby d.gishman on Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:42 pm

I kinda liked how the central drought region was all one colour... it's just easier graphically to visualize that area quickly
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Postby Optimus Prime on Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:58 pm

I agree. The red circles work, but the previous way of designating the drought area worked better for me.
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Postby reverend_kyle on Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:17 am

Optimus Prime wrote:I agree. The red circles work, but the previous way of designating the drought area worked better for me.


I liked the overall boring look of the map before, reminds me of in 4th grade when we read a story about the okies, during the depression.
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Postby RjBeals on Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:50 am

You know, I liked it better also like that. The pastel colors don't fit into the dust theme. I'll switch back and keep working on how to limit borders. Thanks for the feedback.
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Postby militant on Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:09 am

RjBeals wrote:2) Since I've added color to the states, the inner "drought" area didn't look good as a shade of red. That gave too much color. Instead I've given red outlined army circles. I think pretty obvious - what about the rest of you?

i thnk you should put some red on the borders of the central drought region and also include the red army circles. i probably have not explained it well, if you dont understand i will explain it again :)
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Postby loki77 on Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:57 am

needs more than 5 areas
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Postby dustn64 on Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:54 am

This could be my favorite map. (It has my town on it)
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Postby RjBeals on Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:36 pm

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Here's Revise #3 which really goes back to Rev #1. I didn't like the pastel colors on the prev map. I also took out the crop bonus. I don't want that. I adjusted borders on this version also to make it smoother. However, I am still experimenting with impassable borders.. I started adding a red border to indicate impassible, but am not sure. I didn't want to continue if it doesn't get a good response.

Or... I still kind of like the idea of states only being able to attack other states by means of the central drought area. I would have to work on Oklahoma & Texas.

Thought I would throw this up - seeing as how it's fairly simple and there's been a lot of heat towards complex maps recently :wink:
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Postby wcaclimbing on Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:32 pm

awww....

I liked the pastel colors.

If you are sticking with a dust-color theme, at least try and get some variety between different continent colors.
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Postby tenio on Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:46 pm

i liked the dirt cracks better
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Postby RjBeals on Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:56 pm

tenio wrote:i liked the dirt cracks better
Somebody pointed out they look like tree roots - and I thought it was too bold to be in the map. My whole focus was on those cracks. Plus I would need more of them to balance the map and it would have looked bad.

However, I'm just testing the waters with the red borders also. It may take a while, but we'll figure something out.

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Postby I GOT SERVED on Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:30 pm

RjBeals wrote:Or... I still kind of like the idea of states only being able to attack other states by means of the central drought area. I would have to work on Oklahoma & Texas.


I think that this is a great idea. You should most definitely add that. As for the colors, maybe you should try and keep them in there, but just have them be barely visible. Kinda like a tint thing like on the Great Lakes map. That way you can hopefully keep the drought outline, but still have the pastel colors.
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Postby tenio on Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:56 pm

:roll: I second the above!

With small adjustmeants to the dust bowl area I think having the only attack routes by way of the dust bowl would be great

If only being able to attack by way of the dust bowl maybe we could have something like a road going along the outside of the map allowing those countries to atack also
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Postby misterman10 on Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:56 am

dustn64 wrote:This could be my favorite map. (It has my town on it)
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Postby oaktown on Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:02 am

sorry I brought up the impassable border thing... you shouldn't throw them in just for the sake of having them, they should only exist where it makes sense. For instance, Kansas to Nebraska shouldn't be an unpassable border, because there's absolutely nothing there that would slow an army down. :)

I love the look of this so far... keep up the good work. Oh, and I put your thumb back on the GD page.
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Postby reverend_kyle on Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:12 am

I like the only attacking by means of the dustbowl. With that you have to go there, but you can't go there too much or you'll get negatively punished.
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