Dust Bowl [Quenched]

[yeti_c]

attacking via dustbowl is a good idea i think and adds a bit of spice to the map. and yes, the house is very nice : P

keep going on this one, its a nice original concept and looks pretty well designed thus far.

as a brief aside... my american history isnt great but i believe most of this land was commandeered from native americans just after the turn of the century? if this is indeed the case then you could tie bonuses etc in with this theme?

And you can back up your arguments with decent posts... we can make a regular foundry goer out of you yet?

Keep the ideas and thoughts coming... and bring your friends!!

C.

well ive been looking through a few of them. there are some maps, like that pacman one that i know ill never play, so refrain from commenting on. so long as someone finds it constructive then i guess its ok.

also, notes have been posted in THOTA forum asking others for input into maps, so dont be surprised to see a couple of us dropping in from time to time.

Cool - a veritable meeting in the middle by the sounds of things...

As for Pac-Man - I can see why you don't like it - can I query your approximate age? You see for old hands like me I love the retro harking back to my youth thing it stirs up in me!!!

C.

[khazalid]

im 20 years old, but i too had a spectrum and an atari onwards.

[yeti_c]

im 20 years old, but i too had a spectrum and an atari onwards.

How can you not appreciate the classical gaming genius then!?!?!?!?!

C.

[khazalid]

its painful to look at, very messy, gimmicky and to me at least, unplayable for the most part. having such a fundamental aversion to maps like that i guess theres not really much point in giving any input?

[yeti_c]

its painful to look at, very messy, gimmicky and to me at least, unplayable for the most part. having such a fundamental aversion to maps like that i guess theres not really much point in giving any input?

Painful to look at in this case is the style - but I'll ignore that one... as that's very much personal opinion!!

Gimmicky? This is because of the non standard continent bonuses? Fair enough I can understand that.

Unplayable -> I think might be a tad harsh... we'll have to wait and see when it comes out I think...

C.

[Coleman]

This is all interesting, but it probably shouldn't be happening in the Dustbowl topic. I don't want to turn mean right now. Maybe if it doesn't turn back after this post.

[yeti_c]

This is all interesting, but it probably shouldn't be happening in the Dustbowl topic. I don't want to turn mean right now. Maybe if it doesn't turn back after this post.

Soz.

C.

[khazalid]

back to the last topical post then...

attacking via dustbowl is a good idea i think and adds a bit of spice to the map. and yes, the house is very nice : P

keep going on this one, its a nice original concept and looks pretty well designed thus far.

as a brief aside... my american history isnt great but i believe most of this land was commandeered from native americans just after the turn of the century? if this is indeed the case then you could tie bonuses etc in with this theme?

[Anarkistsdream]

RJ... Is there anyway you could center Guthrie and Oklahoma City more on the map... OKC is DIRECTLY in the center of OK and Guthrie is about 20 miles to the north of it... It would mean moving the Oklahoma State Name, but, for people who are from the area *hint hint* it really would just make it look better.

[mibi]

The central drought region circle in the legend is the same color as the non-drought region in the map, its too light. Although it may just be this library computer I'm on.

[Coleman]

The central drought region circle in the legend is the same color as the non-drought region in the map, its too light. Although it may just be this library computer I'm on.

Nah, I was thinking the same thing, but I didn't want to bring it up because I thought it was just me too.

[RjBeals]

RJ... Is there anyway you could center Guthrie and Oklahoma City more on the map... OKC is DIRECTLY in the center of OK and Guthrie is about 20 miles to the north of it... It would mean moving the Oklahoma State Name, but, for people who are from the area *hint hint* it really would just make it look better.

Yes. I've done a few enhancements to borders also. I'll post the rev tomorrow. I've also adjusted the central dustbowl color.

[Mjollner]

Some of the territorty names are off, I notice a couple in Colorado, and at least one in TX, I'll wait to comment on the revision, though.

[RjBeals]

Some of the territorty names are off, I notice a couple in Colorado, and at least one in TX, I'll wait to comment on the revision, though.

Do you mean the circles are not in the real place the city is? I know some aren't but I had to move slightly to fit borders / names on the map. If there is something really out of place, point it out to me. I've already moved a few from the first revision. I'll post what i have tomorrow.

thanks

[RjBeals]

REV-4


Changes from last revise:

• Added Nebraska as a state with a bonus.
• Removed Cheyenne / Added Norfolk
• Added Attack Rule. I hope this works
• Adjusted legend: Map Description, Bonus Amounts & Negative Bonus Amounts
• Adjusted several inner territory borders.
• Smoothed out dustbowl (both outer & inner borders) to make it more visually appealing

I'm pretty happy with this map so far. Several people liked the pastel colors to separate the states, but I prefer the yellow / sandy color by far. I think the State names and borders are bold enough to distinguish between states. Sorry wcaclimbing.

I'm concerned that the "Attack" blurb may be confusing. Please tell me if it is, and if so, any suggestions on how to keep it short but reword it?

Also - it may look like there are 4-way borders, but because of the dustbowl-attack-only routes, they are not really 4-way.

most of this land was commandeered from native americans just after the turn of the century? ...you could tie bonuses etc in with this theme?

You are correct khazalid, we kicked the American Indians off their land and then destroyed it. However, I do not want too many gimmicks on the map. I prefer straightforward game play. I was going to have a crop bonus, but I think just a state bonus / negative bonus will be enough to make it fun.

[Aerial Attack]

I like the update. As far as state lines go, I think you should keep the same stroke weight (whatever that means) or thickness. Just add small breaks (effectively make them dashed lines) in the Dust Bowl affected areas. Then you could still tell they are states AND that you can only cross in the Dust Bowl.

[RjBeals]

Good Idea. I'll test it out. Thanks

[Coleman]

Continue with this idea?

• Yes - 73% - [ 34 ]
• Not sure, need more structured map first - 19% - [ 9 ]
• No - 6% - [ 3 ]

Total Votes : 46

[RjBeals]

Hows this? I like it and will keep it if it's agreed upon. Thanks for the suggestion Aerial Attack.

Also - looking at Oklahoma, It's too easy to hold for that bonus. I think I may take out the dark drought region of North Platte (Nebraska) and create a new one out of Woodward (Oklahoma). That way OK would have 3borders to defend, the same as Texas, but slightly less bonus.

Also I want to move the drought region of XIT Ranch in Texas to also border Oklahoma. As of right now - what do you think? Or leave it.

[Coleman]

I like it. I think you could extend the thick lines a little father. Denver, North Platte Sterling look like they might connect. Unless Denver is supposed to connect to North Platte. Same with a few other areas.

[RjBeals]

I like it. I think you could extend the thick lines a little father. Denver, North Platte Sterling look like they might connect. Unless Denver is supposed to connect to North Platte. Same with a few other areas.

Well that answers that. If you already question it, then I'm sure it needs extending. It is not suppose to connect. That will be no problem to extend the lines, but I'll let the map sit for a while to get some more feedback.

I see I left the end quotes off of "Dust Bowl" in the description paragraph. That will be fixed also.

And "Dustbowl" should be 2 words in the Attack paragraph. That will be changed also.

[Aerial Attack]

Bonus Structure:

Nebraska (4 terrs, 2 defense points, 2 drought - current +3 bonus, suggest +3)
Colorado (6 terrs, 2 defense points, 2 drought - current +4 bonus, suggest +4)
Kansas (5 terrs, 3 defense points, 2 drought - current +4 bonus, suggest +4)
New Mexico (6 terrs, 2 defense points, 1 drought - current +3 bonus, suggest +4)
Oklahoma (7 terrs, 3 defense points, 2 drought - current +6 bonus, suggest +5)
Texas (8 terrs, 3 defense points, 3 drought - current +7 bonus, suggest +6)

Drought Areas: I suggest
-1 for five areas
-2 for eight areas
-3 for eleven areas
-4 for all twelve areas

[Coleman]

I agree with all of that.

[I GOT SERVED]

I agree with all of that.

I would have to concur. The only suggestion I have would be to kick up the negative bonus for holding all of the drought by onr or two.

[mibi]

who the f*ck would hold 12 drought areas, that doesnt make sense, unless the game is already over.

i think the drought bonus needs to be reworked.