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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:14 am
by DeathsHead
Hmm, not sure I like this new map, a combination of county names and areas. And I lost an army in Ireland on thye changeover:D

Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:14 am
by JBlombier
I've had something similar as lance kelleher and Deathshead.

Player X assaulted South Leinster from Northern Ireland and conquered it from Player Y

This is graphically not possible.

But since that attack was made against me, I remember how the troops were placed. Kerry attack Cork, 4v1, lost nothing, advanced nothing, leaving 3 armies on Kerry.
Those 3 armies are now on Northern Ireland.

Conclusion: The map seems to think that Northern Ireland is the former Kerry.
Game 4012866

Apart from that, the map has improved a lot. Good job!

Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:46 pm
by ahunda
The game-play is messed up:

Game 3987720

I don´t recall the old territory names, but before the change I was holding what is now called Munster. Now I am holding Northern Ireland instead, and that is messing up my entire strategy in the game so far.

I don´t know, if those 2 terrs were simply switched, but it seems there are more problems & errors. I checked the Game log and found at least one attack, that is not possible:

2009-01-19 19:29:33 - tyche73 assaulted North Leinster from Donegal and conquered it from Pedronicus

Those 2 terrs do not border on each other.

It would be nice, if this could be fixed ASAP, preferably before the time for my turn runs out ...

Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:06 pm
by ahunda
Concise description:

The game-play on the new British Isles map is messed up (territories have switched), probably due to errors in the xml.

Specifics:

I do not recall all the former names of the terrs on the old British Isles map. Nor do I recall exactly, who was holding which territories in Game 3987720. But here are some errors, that I spotted immediately:

  • Before the change I was holding what is now called Munster. Now I am holding Northern Ireland instead.
  • There is at least one impossible attack in the Game Log:
    2009-01-19 19:29:33 - tyche73 assaulted North Leinster from Donegal and conquered it from Pedronicus
    Those 2 territories do not border on each other.

This obviously ruins the games, that are in process on the map right now. It would be nice, if this could be fixed ASAP, preferably before the time for my turn runs out ...

Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:07 pm
by LED ZEPPELINER
change the names in the xml, that will solve the problem, it is getting confusing though

Re: Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:37 pm
by MrBenn
This is probably due to a change in the order the territories are listed in the new XML...

Re: Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:39 pm
by killmanic
The admins have been made aware of it and will be looking into it

Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:46 pm
by yeti_c
Hmmm - sounds as though Gimil moved the XML around in ordering - that was a bit of a mistake as now any existing games from the old map will be out of sync - this will settle down as they finish up.

Naughty gimil - Bad boy.

C.

Re: Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:07 pm
by ahunda
Ok. I just checked another British Isles game, where I have been eliminated this round, and I believe I have figured it out now:

The problem, as far as I can tell, concerns 3 territories: Munster (Kerry on the old map), North Ireland (Ulster) & North Leinster (Leinster).

The troops, that should be on Munster, have been switched to North Ireland.
The troops, that should be on North Ireland, have been switched to North Leinster.
The troops, that should be on North Leinster, have been switched to Munster.

I hope, this helps.

Re: Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:36 pm
by ajr1066
What is Avon ?? was it on the old map, it doesnt exist anymore and the territory it consumes on the map is mostly Somerset. As a previous resident of Somerset, it would be great if this was changed.
Thanks
ps I'm sure we'll get used to the new layout, just takes time :D

Re: Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:45 pm
by lokisgal
Yes this is not good
Im currently in a quads - I had one tert left on kerry now that one tert is northern ireland and is exposed where as before it was protected

Game 3954461

bad XMl?

Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:56 pm
by gimil
yeti_c wrote:Hmmm - sounds as though Gimil moved the XML around in ordering - that was a bit of a mistake as now any existing games from the old map will be out of sync - this will settle down as they finish up.

Naughty gimil - Bad boy.

C.


Nah, I didn't handle the XML. All I think that can be done is an apology and the advice to sit the storm out. As far as I am aware there is nothing that can be done now to fix this :(

Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:03 pm
by saaimen
gimil wrote:As far as I am aware there is nothing that can be done now to fix this :(

Tell lack to put the old one back up for a short while? Or is CC fundamentally against taking a step back in time :D?

Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:05 pm
by gimil
saaimen wrote:
gimil wrote:As far as I am aware there is nothing that can be done now to fix this :(

Tell lack to put the old one back up for a short while? Or is CC fundamentally against taking a step back in time :D?


Then we would have the same problem with all the new games that have just been started on the map :P

Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:22 pm
by Lindax
I'm sorry to say that I like the former version a lot better too. in fact I don't like this new version at all. Why was it changed, it seemed perfectly fine before?

Lx

Re: Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:34 pm
by MrBenn
The problem was caused by a slight change in the territory order in the XML. A corrected version of the XML has been submitted to lackattack, and will be uploaded as soon as he gets it.

Thanks for your patience,

MrBenn ;-)

Re: Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:16 pm
by LED ZEPPELINER
MrBenn wrote:This is probably due to a change in the order the territories are listed in the new XML...

Also, when u attack oxon on the new map, where u select which place u want to attack, it has oxfordshire instead of oxon, and this probably happened to other places as well

Re: Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:19 pm
by the.killing.44
LED ZEPPELINER wrote:
MrBenn wrote:This is probably due to a change in the order the territories are listed in the new XML...

Also, when u attack oxon on the new map, where u select which place u want to attack, it has oxfordshire instead of oxon, and this probably happened to other places as well

Look at the key … Oxon = Oxfordshire

.44

Re: Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:40 pm
by MrBenn
This is a discussion that can take place in the map thread in the Final Forge...

[tannoy for a global moderator...]

Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:41 pm
by mrblitz
I went from really liking this map, to not wanting to play it. The colors are all washed out. There is little contrast between the lettering and the background. The entire thing is 'whitish.'

The old one was great.

Re: Map descriptions for map info. project [moderated]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:50 pm
by pinkflaminko
why is the british isles map changed? it was perfect, just for the sake of improving? it looks better but there was nothing wrong, i will miss the old british isles

Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:57 pm
by Ryall55
Havent played on the revamped map, but I love the way it looks :)

Re: Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:12 pm
by ahunda
It´s fixed now, and all armies are back to where they are supposed to be.

Thanks. :)

Re: Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:19 pm
by The Fuzzy Pengui
Moving per MrBenn's request :)

Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:05 pm
by soundman
mrblitz wrote:I went from really liking this map, to not wanting to play it. The colors are all washed out. There is little contrast between the lettering and the background. The entire thing is 'whitish.'

The old one was great.

I agree that it is too pale, but it's not bad when you get the armies on it. :) It's also easier to tell where the territory borders are than on the old one.