Conquer Club

edbeard wrote:I think you need a download every [insert length of time] for it to stay up.

ok here it is from sendspace..."A file becomes inactive if it has not been downloaded at least once during a 14 day period"

But why can't they just keep it up? Weird if you ask me, unless it takes up memory or something.

Gilligan wrote:

edbeard wrote:I think you need a download every [insert length of time] for it to stay up.

ok here it is from sendspace..."A file becomes inactive if it has not been downloaded at least once during a 14 day period"

But why can't they just keep it up? Weird if you ask me, unless it takes up memory or something.

They have a premium service... if you pay you get to keep files up indefinitely.

http://www.ripway.com is better, and they're free with 30Mb..no deletions - only the ones you create.

It is up

edit: FIXED!

one mistake already. the vacants patrol started neutral when it shouldn't.

pm sent to lack

http://www.sendspace.com/file/atvilc

There is a missing . in D.A. in the Objective part on top

Gilligan wrote:There is a missing . in D.A. in the Objective part on top

ssshhhh. I've noticed a couple other things too but these are very minor and I don't think they'll cause trouble. Plus, since Telvannia is the only one who can really fix these things (he has the original files), it's a bit of a hassle to fix it.

maybe at a later date.

edbeard wrote:

Gilligan wrote:There is a missing . in D.A. in the Objective part on top

ssshhhh. I've noticed a couple other things too but these are very minor and I don't think they'll cause trouble. Plus, since Telvannia is the only one who can really fix these things (he has the original files), it's a bit of a hassle to fix it.

maybe at a later date.

Nah, they won't cause trouble. I'm just nit picky

I am constantly being impressed by the variety and incredible beauty of the maps that CC continues to provide us with for great play!
This is another one I am very excited to delve into and spend long hours playing. My only concern is that at first glance, I could not see the "phone" and it is simply because the phone is red, and the background it is laid upon is red. A possible "outline" of the phone, or a different color for it may be better to distinguish it.

Thanks for all the great hard work guys!
And I really look forward to that wonderful Africa map that was going down!

this looks like an interesting map, but the graphics are horrible. it looks as though it's out of focus or something..

would love to play it if it didnt remind me of my arrest a few months ago

shut up interfacer

Woohoo Congrats Edbeard.

Almost through the backlog now.

C.

t.e.c wrote:this looks like an interesting map, but the graphics are horrible. it looks as though it's out of focus or something..

i agree it appears some areas are darker and it makes the territory names difficult to read..

this map still has a long way to go to be playable

Well I do not like the looks of this map so I will probably never play it, just like the majority of maps on here...There are only a few maps that I play regularly, the rest just don't cut it...I like a map that looks good, has good color combinations and is not crammed up with a bunch of rules and stuff...Keep it clean and simple...

As for the people who think this game glorifies war, get over it...You are the type of people who just like complaining all the time and look for things to complain about...There are no graphic representations of war, just a couple of dice rolling, lowest number looses...To me it helps keep the mind healthy by thinking and planning ahead, therefore, I think it is a good 'Brain Game'...

superFLINT

Coleman wrote:... Make the police look very much like the good guys in this scenario, like the D.A.R.E. dog, Superman and such....

I prefer that it be realistic. Instead of Coleman's fantasy where vice cops are good guys, show them as the violent thieves so many, many of them are....certainly don't suggest that those who exist on either side of the drug war somehow are good guys while the other side is bad.

That said, it is an absurd suggestion that this map in anyway is distinct from others on CC. The theme always is war, violence, etc.

More power to those creative enough to try something new.

I don't understand this map (I don't understand many of the maps). Perhaps this map could become a CC first, one where someone actually thought to write up an explanation of how it is played?

I suspect many people are like me, and don't play maps because when it isn't obvious how to play, who wants to learn the hard way...

well you have to play by your drop. if you happen to have a lot of police cars then you should probably try to get the lieutenant and commissioner. If you happen to start with a few of the four bosses, you should take over the muscles in those respective territories. then maybe take over the phones since they're easy to grab from your muscle + boss position. And/or, maybe go to the Hideout sector and grab the +1 for each muscle bonus. if you hold a junkie, you take over the stash. from there maybe try to grab the counter and runner to grab another +1. basically it's all about doing what looks best based on your drop. sometimes things'll happen so you have to do other stuff like take over the stick-up man and stop people's bonuses by bombarding their stashes. I haven't played enough games to see what actually happens though

edbeard wrote:well you have to play by your drop. if you happen to have a lot of police cars then you should probably try to get the lieutenant and commissioner. If you happen to start with a few of the four bosses, you should take over the muscles in those respective territories. then maybe take over the phones since they're easy to grab from your muscle + boss position. And/or, maybe go to the Hideout sector and grab the +1 for each muscle bonus. if you hold a junkie, you take over the stash. from there maybe try to grab the counter and runner to grab another +1. basically it's all about doing what looks best based on your drop. sometimes things'll happen so you have to do other stuff like take over the stick-up man and stop people's bonuses by bombarding their stashes. I haven't played enough games to see what actually happens though

On the old board games there always was/is a set of instructions/rules. Why not on CC maps? I look at a map like Feudal, and many of the others, and there is no way in hell to have even the slightest concept of how to play except by playing, probably multiple games and learning by making "dumb" deployments, etc.

It seems to me that anyone creating a map in essence is creating a new game, albeit one which is consistent with the underlying structure and facilities of Conquer Club. As game creator, there is a logical responsibility to make a detailed description of what the game is about.

You have given a shot at part of it here, by explaining what you have learned so far. Why isn't this a feature of ALL the maps here?

I defy anyone to tell me how, for example, anyone looking at the Feudal map for the first time knows how to play it.

On EACH map there could be a link to rules/instructions (I don't think that would be too complicated a feature to add to CC, and I recognize that it would require the map creators to do more work in writing a detailed list of rules/instructions.

I think it would greatly increase the number of players for each map.

Something like this was discussed and worked on ages ago... however it kindof fell by the wayside... probably due to lack of "lack" buyin.

C.

yeti_c wrote:Something like this was discussed and worked on ages ago... however it kindof fell by the wayside... probably due to lack of "lack" buyin.

C.

Well that, anyway, is good to know. I long have wondered how so many people can be expected to join a game which no one possibly can understand unless it first is explained to them.

Rules/Directions make sense, they are obvious, and the fact that it isn't done is inexplicable.

To give a few examples. One very good map is American Civil War. I say "good" because I personally enjoy it but also because it is unique among the more than 20 maps I have played. It was VERY well thought out and exceptionally creative.

It also is distinct from the original RISK type games. It has several great "quirks"...NONE of which are easily understood by someone who never has played that game.

I have won several Asia games because no one but me understood that you can attack from Inner Mongolia to Mongolia, one way. Same problem exists on the British Isle Map with respect both to Hadrian's Wall and the weird Galloway thing which I won't even try to explain here because there should be written rules where it is spelled-out.

I don't know how many USA games I played AFTER the map was changed without any notice about what Tennessee could attack.

These things go on and on. Hell, on CC, it is a cottage industry, taking advantage of the uninformed/unconnected.

Simple written rules accompany all other games. Why not at CC?

jpliberty wrote:The theme always is war, violence, etc.

CCU
Chinese Checkers
Crossword
Conquer Man
VoTK
King of The Mountains
Madness
Rail Europe
Rail USA
8 Thoughts
And just about any of the geographical maps like for example San Francisco, Malta, Asia, Arctic, etc. are not necessarily war/violence themed.
(and what weird Galloway thing?)

The Viking wrote:

jpliberty wrote:The theme always is war, violence, etc.

CCU
Chinese Checkers
Crossword
Conquer Man
VoTK
King of The Mountains
Madness
Rail Europe
Rail USA
8 Thoughts
And just about any of the geographical maps like for example San Francisco, Malta, Asia, Arctic, etc. are not necessarily war/violence themed.
(and what weird Galloway thing?)

OK, I don't play those games. The foundation of CC is RISK. That is a war game. If you don't like that state it. Stop the nonsense, the namby pamby bs of saying War in Bad.

If you dislike War, I suggest you do something about those who make war, not complain about a game being played by peaceful and honest individuals. You are an IDIOT to suggest that this game, or any game in CC glorifies or in any way promotes violence.

ONLY a complete MORON would suggest that.

Let's take your list. Let's limit CC to just those games included on your list. I, for one, have played ZERO games on those maps. I suggest my experience mirrors that of a majority of CC subscribers (paid and non-paid).

So, go play your Chinese Checkers, you can do that elsewhere, not here, if our warlike intentions offend you. Next, complain about the Brady Bunchy reruns on TV Land, cause I'm almost certain that once they said "damn" on the show.

Again, you are a complete moron...it is not enough to suggest that your idea lacks merit, you, as a person, lack merit. Have a nice day.

The Viking wrote:CCU
Chinese Checkers
Crossword
Conquer Man
VoTK
King of The Mountains
Madness
Rail Europe
Rail USA
8 Thoughts
And just about any of the geographical maps like for example San Francisco, Malta, Asia, Arctic, etc. are not necessarily war/violence themed.
(and what weird Galloway thing?)

LMAO...Well all these maps, whether its crossword or world or Asia or whatever, are all the same - You have to attack adjoining areas and use dice as your weapons...There is no visual cues of violence on CC, when you roll the dice you dont see a bunch of soldiers shooting each other you see 5 dice, if your dice has higher numbers then you win that roll....I dont know how people can call that violent, I guess they are the type of people who live to complain about anything that they do not like...

I really do not think that this will turn my kid into a raving Hitler lunatic if he plays it and dream of world domination or become a murderer or something like that because it lacks the visual violence that come in other video games...FPS games train kids to find the best cover and and shoot for vital areas of the body to get a quick kill and they learn how to aim...I remember reading about a shooting in the US and the kid was into FPS games and played them a lot, he ended up killing a dozen people and 9 of those kills were headshots, taught to him by an FPS game...It really boils down to the parents, they need to control what their kids are doing and teach them whats right and whats not right - Id say the parents of that kid did not monitor what their kid was doing or probably taught him through their actions...

What is CC really teaching our kids and everyone else? I think it helps them learn how to plan and manage a team of numbers(armies)...

jpliberty I agree 1000% on the map rules...I have seen that one Feudal a number of times and thought about joining, but I did not understand the map so instead of making an ass out of meself I never joined it....And I hate those maps that have the rules written all over the map in text that a person with a magnifying glass would still be hard pressed to read....Like you said, put a link on the map and make up a little html page to explain the map, I dont think it will be that hard or take that much time...I would probably play more maps too if they were explained...

I think I will like this map, but I am having some trouble reading the various labels. Dark print on a dark background is very hard to see.