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Re: High Seas, latest pg. 1 & 13 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby oaktown on Sat May 10, 2008 10:48 am

bryguy wrote:I have a question

why do the south and scotia sea connect, but not baffin bay and chukchi sea?

Because there was no Northwest Passage in the 16th Century.

Pack ice prevented ships from getting through until an ice breaker did it in the 20th century, and even that took the crew three years. It is navigable now, as a result of climate change.
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Re: High Seas, latest pg. 1 & 13 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby oaktown on Sat May 10, 2008 11:49 am

Here are two examples of the large map with army coordinates... small map needs larger circles, so I'll have that up shortly. Note that these are screenshots, and I don't know why the 88s happened to come out look like mud on the first one no matter though as these are for the purpose of centering only. Please tell me what you see off.

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Re: High Seas, latest pg. 1 & 13 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby TaCktiX on Sat May 10, 2008 12:43 pm

They all look centered to me. Nice work on that oaktown.
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Re: High Seas, latest pg. 1 & 13 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby oaktown on Sat May 10, 2008 2:04 pm

OK, small coordinates... there are a few territories that ain't perfect, kept looking a bit too far to the left or the right, so I went with what looked better to me. If anything looks way off I can recreate individual circles.

To do:
• move the Baltic and Black Sea titles a bit on the small map to get them out from behind the numbers.
• I'll see about darkening up the small map a bit, as Andy suggested.

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Re: High Seas, latest pg. 1 & 13 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby ZeakCytho on Sat May 10, 2008 2:47 pm

bryguy wrote:I have a question

why do the south and scotia sea connect, but not baffin bay and chukchi sea?


My guess is because of the ice up there. Not exactly easy to sail C16 ships in that area ;)
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Re: High Seas, latest pg. 1 & 13 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby AndyDufresne on Sat May 10, 2008 3:57 pm

I'm not too fond of the name Moz. Chan. ...mostly because I don't see any other abbreviations...but I do realize that it extended out is probably too big to fit the space. Perhaps if you put Mozambique roofing the army shadow, and Channel along the left side of it---that may work. But it'd look oddly arrange compared to the position of all other names, so it may not be worth it.

A tiny thing, "Sea of California" ... the final "A" is a little off the "world" if that makes sense...perhaps a slight nudge left.


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Re: High Seas, latest pg. 1 & 13 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby oaktown on Sat May 10, 2008 5:41 pm

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In this version:
• darkened inset map... any darker and it weighs down that corner
• Moz. Chan. is now spelled out; solution was to use a smaller type size
• Sea of California nudged back into map
• Titles that bumped into army counts readjusted

To do: adjust coordinates to match changes.
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Re: High Seas, latest pg. 1 & 13 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby ZeakCytho on Sat May 10, 2008 5:44 pm

I don't like the new Mozambique Channel, but I guess there isn't really a better way to do it. The rest of the changes look good/
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Re: High Seas, latest pg. 1 & 13 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby oaktown on Sat May 10, 2008 5:50 pm

Is it time for a code check??

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Re: High Seas, latest pg. 1 & 13 [I, GP, Gr]

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Re: High Seas, code and counts pg 16 [I, GP, Gr]

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Re: High Seas, latest pg. 1 & 13 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby yeti_c on Sun May 11, 2008 3:49 pm

bryguy wrote:I have a question

why do the south and scotia sea connect, but not baffin bay and chukchi sea?


Probably cos of the big bit of ice in the way?!

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Re: High Seas, code and counts pg 16 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby gimil on Sun May 11, 2008 8:23 pm

Oaktown there is always something about your maps that feel more complete than other maps. I live it.

But whatever is going on in north africa looks to busy to me, would it be to much to do something with it (even thou im not sure what) :P
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Re: High Seas, code and counts pg 16 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby oaktown on Sun May 11, 2008 10:56 pm

gimil wrote:But whatever is going on in north africa looks to busy to me, would it be to much to do something with it (even thou im not sure what) :P

I'd love to do something about whatever it is that is bothering you, gim. I'm trying to read your mind to figure out what that is, but there must be something between us that is keeping me from picking up your thoughts... what could it be... Oceanus Atlanticus perhaps? ;)
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Re: High Seas, code and counts pg 16 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby gimil on Mon May 12, 2008 8:11 pm

Maybe jsut remove the river you got running through the picture of people (is that what they are?). I think ill be satisfied :)
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Re: High Seas, code and counts pg 16 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby oaktown on Mon May 12, 2008 9:34 pm

gimil wrote:Maybe jsut remove the river you got running through the picture of people (is that what they are?). I think ill be satisfied :)

Hmm... are people having trouble making out the camels? If so I should swap out that image for something completely different.
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Re: High Seas, code and counts pg 16 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby ZeakCytho on Mon May 12, 2008 9:35 pm

oaktown wrote:
gimil wrote:Maybe jsut remove the river you got running through the picture of people (is that what they are?). I think ill be satisfied :)

Hmm... are people having trouble making out the camels? If so I should swap out that image for something completely different.


Those things are camels!? The whole picture makes a lot more sense now :P

Seriously, I had no idea what they were. I guess another image would be good, though I kind of like this one now that I know what it is.
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Re: High Seas, code and counts pg 16 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby oaktown on Mon May 12, 2008 9:42 pm

ZeakCytho wrote:Those things are camels!? The whole picture makes a lot more sense now :P

Man, you send 'em to school, you buy 'em books... #-o

Tell ya what I'll do - I'll lose the second camel and make it easier to make out.
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Re: High Seas, code and counts pg 16 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby oaktown on Mon May 12, 2008 11:54 pm

All right... how d'you like them camels?

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Re: High Seas, code and counts pg 16 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby ZeakCytho on Mon May 12, 2008 11:57 pm

That is one damned fine camel, Oaktown :D

See, I can be taught :lol:.
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Re: High Seas, code and counts pg 16 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue May 13, 2008 12:02 am

If we are going to change various images on the map, what about adding a Kraken? :) (There's no room really, I just like the old sea creature. :D)


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Re: High Seas, code and counts pg 16 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby ZeakCytho on Tue May 13, 2008 12:04 am

AndyDufresne wrote:If we are going to change various images on the map, what about adding a Kraken? :) (There's no room really, I just like the old sea creature. :D)

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That thing between the Scotia Sea and Cape Basin looks vaguely Kraken-ish. It could pass for one ;)
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Re: High Seas, code and counts pg 16 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue May 13, 2008 12:06 am

It in no way resembles a Kraken. Pretty sure it's a 'seahorse.' :)


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Re: High Seas, code and counts pg 16 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby ZeakCytho on Tue May 13, 2008 12:08 am

AndyDufresne wrote:It in no way resembles a Kraken. Pretty sure it's a 'seahorse.' :)


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Hmm...now that you mention it, I didn't notice the right/bottom line on that thing's neck, making me think that it's whole right half was tentacles, hence the Kraken.

I think this proves that either I have worse eyesight than I thought, a more overactive imagination than I thought, or that Oaktown doesn't draw very clear mythical creatures. :lol:
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Re: High Seas, code and counts pg 16 [I, GP, Gr]

Postby oaktown on Tue May 13, 2008 12:18 am

Any more jokes about my drawings and I'll tell you all what you can stick up your krakens...
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