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Postby fumandomuerte on Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:50 am

Thanks for the comments, I made some changes based on them :).
I did like the anillo central unmerged, but it could be a problem during the game causing some confussion.

I added the airports to connect all with Anillo Central, as if it was the real wolrd... Centralism.
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Postby militant on Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:56 am

I really like the bonuses for the ports, especially the pacific and Gulf ports, i agree with edbeard that the airports need to be removed, if not removed then change the symbol, they look a lttle cramped. I really like the map overall though.
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Postby iancanton on Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:37 pm

this map looks great, but i like the original version, with the df and expanded six-territory anillo central, even more.

mexico is a very centralised country and we need the large area around mexico city to show how important the capital city is. this means a lot of the action will be in the mexico city area, just like real life. bring back the expanded anillo central! don't worry about confusing people because some maps use this technique already, for example bamboo jack.

where to put anillo central? delete the three islas (and move the abbreviations). having no native population, the islas are of no importance.

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Postby wcaclimbing on Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:05 pm

where it says "ports doesnt form parts of continents", it should say "ports are not part of any continent".
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Postby fumandomuerte on Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:24 am

VERSION 3
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Postby Skittles! on Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:32 am

With Anillo Central, does QRO attack SLP and GTO and Mich? And all that other territories that border other territories?
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Postby fumandomuerte on Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:41 am

Skittles! wrote:With Anillo Central, does QRO attack SLP and GTO and Mich? And all that other territories that border other territories?


I think it's very clear that QRO attacks SLP, GTO, Mich. (Michoacán), Hidalgo and EM.
I don't understand the second question, can u be more specific? :D
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Postby Skittles! on Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:53 am

fumandomuerte wrote:
Skittles! wrote:With Anillo Central, does QRO attack SLP and GTO and Mich? And all that other territories that border other territories?


I think it's very clear that QRO attacks SLP, GTO, Mich. (Michoacán), Hidalgo and EM.
I don't understand the second question, can u be more specific? :D

Ahkay, that answers my question. I was just wondering because I wanted clarification. thanks. :) it's look pretty good.
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Postby edbeard on Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:39 am

I love the new update. I think this map is ready for the main foundry.

I think your bonuses are a bit too high in a few places.

My recommendations

Sur - 2
Norte - 4
Golfo - 3
Occidente - 4

the rest I think are probably fine.
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Postby Coleman on Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:22 pm

Not to make it look like I just do what edbeard says :roll: but...

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Postby tenio on Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:30 pm

i don't like mexico 3.0

I Love mexico 2.0

The colors and everything on 2.0 are just so much better then 3.0

maybe break mexico city into 2 territories or something


also the airport was a great idea

instead of a legend maybe you should have a mini-map?
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Postby Coleman on Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:51 pm

I also prefer the colors of 2.0, but I like everything else about 3.0 better.
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Postby jakejake on Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:13 am

i like a lot!! :lol:
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Postby cairnswk on Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:07 pm

why are you using sqaure and round army circles...consistency shoudl be a priority.
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Postby yeti_c on Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:16 pm

Great start here... Keep up the good work - Liking the "fresh" colours from V2...

But the layout from V3 is good.

Also - your army shadows aren't good on a white background...

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Postby fumandomuerte on Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:15 am

Hey, I didn't notice my thread was moved. This is the first foundry stamp I earn and I think it was too quick :D .

Now, about the suggestions for the upcoming 4th Version:
edbeard wrote:I think your bonuses are a bit too high in a few places. My recommendations:
Sur - 2
Norte - 4
Golfo - 3
Occidente - 4
I agree with you because of the small amount of terits.

tenio wrote:1. I don't like mexico 3.0
2. I Love mexico 2.0
3. The colors and everything on 2.0 are just so much better then 3.0
4. Maybe break mexico city into 2 territories or something
5. Also the airport was a great idea
6. Instead of a legend maybe you should have a mini-map?
1. I like more 3.0 because the importance of central Mexico.
2. Answered on 1.
3. OK, I'll fix that.
4. Oh no, that wouldn't be very close to the real political division.
5. Thinking of fog games that wouldn't make the map interesting.
6. Love it, be sure i'm incluiding a little map on next version.


cairnswk wrote:why are you using sqaure and round army circles...consistency shoudl be a priority.
You are right. I'll change all the army containers to circles.

yeti_c wrote:Also - your army shadows aren't good on a white background...
I'll add some darker shadows.

Thanks 4 the suggestions!
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Postby iancanton on Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:20 am

i love v3 of this simple and accurate map that has distinctive national flavour and gameplay. do the continents (regions) have any cultural, ethnic, administrative or traditional meaning, or are they just geographical?

the new bonuses are all good. i’d also reduce the noroeste bonus to +3 (less than occidente) because noroeste has an attractive, quiet location in the corner and is not on anyone’s attack route (while occidente, in the middle, is very easy for anyone to attack).

in anillo central, what is EM? estado de mexico? when i search for that, the website below appears. is edomex a suitable name for estado de mexico on our map, instead of EM, or does only the government use this name?

http://www.edomex.gob.mx/portal/page/portal/edomex

the english name for golfo de mexico is gulf of mexico, not mexican gulf. if u use golfo de mexico, then i think everyone will understand the meaning, although maybe gulf of mexico is better if u are using the english name to explain the port bonuses. what do u think?

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Postby fumandomuerte on Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:16 pm

iancanton wrote:1. Do the continents (regions) have any cultural, ethnic, administrative or traditional meaning, or are they just geographical?

2. The new bonuses are all good. i’d also reduce the noroeste bonus to +3 (less than occidente) because noroeste has an attractive, quiet location in the corner and is not on anyone’s attack route (while occidente, in the middle, is very easy for anyone to attack).

3. In anillo central, what is EM? estado de mexico? when i search for that, the website below appears. is edomex a suitable name for estado de mexico on our map, instead of EM, or does only the government use this name?

4. The english name for golfo de mexico is gulf of mexico, not mexican gulf. if u use golfo de mexico, then i think everyone will understand the meaning, although maybe gulf of mexico is better if u are using the english name to explain the port bonuses. what do u think?


1. The regions I choosed attend the fact that Mexico is a country made of small Mexicos; they try to represent the geographical "people's idiosyncrasy".

2. Bonuses are changing on next map revision.

3. Yes, EM is Estado de México, but because of the size of the name I just put the initials. Maybe I can place an abbreviation like "EdoMex" instead of EM.

4. You are right, I'll change that.

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Postby Ogrecrusher on Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:30 am

I also much prefer the gameplay of version 3.

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Postby oaktown on Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:39 pm

Hooray! Finally a Mexico map!

My first thoughts: it will save space and confusion if you called the "Mexico" territory "D.F." I'm sure the chilangos will approve. :wink:

Any thought of putting a third port on the gulf side? Isn't Veracruz the biggest port on the east side anyway? It would even out the bonuses on the two sides, and get rid of a the two territory bonus region. And it might not be a bad idea graphically to have a slightly different army square for the ports, but that's minor.

Bonuses need to be brought in line with each other. +5 for Occidente seems really high.

OK, beyond that this is a nice start. Have some fun with the graphics - mas sabor Mexicano!
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Postby fumandomuerte on Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:04 am

VERSION 4 Updated 28/Feb/08
SMALL 600x391
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35 Territories
9 Continents (2 sub)
-Adjusted the bonuses.
-Added a mini-map showing bonuses.
-Renamed some terits:
EM > Edo. Mex.
México > DF
SL > San Luis
NL > Nuevo León
QR > Quintana Roo
-Didn't put a port on Veracruz because the Gulf continent has already a port. I know that Veracruz is the most important port of México, but this omittion is thinking on the gameplay.
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Postby FreeMan10 on Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:18 am

I haven't measured, but these maps both look too wide. Has anyone checked this?
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Postby fumandomuerte on Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:23 am

Right click the images and choose properties, you'll see both images are on the limits (600px for the small and 800px for the large).
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Postby FreeMan10 on Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:42 am

Awesome! Thanks for the info.

Maybe they look wide because they're not that tall... Not that that's a bad thing.
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Postby Ogrecrusher on Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:45 am

Maybe it's just me, but the text on the Sur continent on the small map looks like something has gone wrong, like half the pixels are missing. It's fine on the large map though.
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