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Postby fumandomuerte on Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:15 am

Hey, I didn't notice my thread was moved. This is the first foundry stamp I earn and I think it was too quick :D .

Now, about the suggestions for the upcoming 4th Version:
edbeard wrote:I think your bonuses are a bit too high in a few places. My recommendations:
Sur - 2
Norte - 4
Golfo - 3
Occidente - 4
I agree with you because of the small amount of terits.

tenio wrote:1. I don't like mexico 3.0
2. I Love mexico 2.0
3. The colors and everything on 2.0 are just so much better then 3.0
4. Maybe break mexico city into 2 territories or something
5. Also the airport was a great idea
6. Instead of a legend maybe you should have a mini-map?
1. I like more 3.0 because the importance of central Mexico.
2. Answered on 1.
3. OK, I'll fix that.
4. Oh no, that wouldn't be very close to the real political division.
5. Thinking of fog games that wouldn't make the map interesting.
6. Love it, be sure i'm incluiding a little map on next version.


cairnswk wrote:why are you using sqaure and round army circles...consistency shoudl be a priority.
You are right. I'll change all the army containers to circles.

yeti_c wrote:Also - your army shadows aren't good on a white background...
I'll add some darker shadows.

Thanks 4 the suggestions!
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Postby iancanton on Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:20 am

i love v3 of this simple and accurate map that has distinctive national flavour and gameplay. do the continents (regions) have any cultural, ethnic, administrative or traditional meaning, or are they just geographical?

the new bonuses are all good. i’d also reduce the noroeste bonus to +3 (less than occidente) because noroeste has an attractive, quiet location in the corner and is not on anyone’s attack route (while occidente, in the middle, is very easy for anyone to attack).

in anillo central, what is EM? estado de mexico? when i search for that, the website below appears. is edomex a suitable name for estado de mexico on our map, instead of EM, or does only the government use this name?

http://www.edomex.gob.mx/portal/page/portal/edomex

the english name for golfo de mexico is gulf of mexico, not mexican gulf. if u use golfo de mexico, then i think everyone will understand the meaning, although maybe gulf of mexico is better if u are using the english name to explain the port bonuses. what do u think?

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Postby fumandomuerte on Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:16 pm

iancanton wrote:1. Do the continents (regions) have any cultural, ethnic, administrative or traditional meaning, or are they just geographical?

2. The new bonuses are all good. i’d also reduce the noroeste bonus to +3 (less than occidente) because noroeste has an attractive, quiet location in the corner and is not on anyone’s attack route (while occidente, in the middle, is very easy for anyone to attack).

3. In anillo central, what is EM? estado de mexico? when i search for that, the website below appears. is edomex a suitable name for estado de mexico on our map, instead of EM, or does only the government use this name?

4. The english name for golfo de mexico is gulf of mexico, not mexican gulf. if u use golfo de mexico, then i think everyone will understand the meaning, although maybe gulf of mexico is better if u are using the english name to explain the port bonuses. what do u think?


1. The regions I choosed attend the fact that Mexico is a country made of small Mexicos; they try to represent the geographical "people's idiosyncrasy".

2. Bonuses are changing on next map revision.

3. Yes, EM is Estado de México, but because of the size of the name I just put the initials. Maybe I can place an abbreviation like "EdoMex" instead of EM.

4. You are right, I'll change that.

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Postby Ogrecrusher on Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:30 am

I also much prefer the gameplay of version 3.

Looking great!
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Postby oaktown on Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:39 pm

Hooray! Finally a Mexico map!

My first thoughts: it will save space and confusion if you called the "Mexico" territory "D.F." I'm sure the chilangos will approve. :wink:

Any thought of putting a third port on the gulf side? Isn't Veracruz the biggest port on the east side anyway? It would even out the bonuses on the two sides, and get rid of a the two territory bonus region. And it might not be a bad idea graphically to have a slightly different army square for the ports, but that's minor.

Bonuses need to be brought in line with each other. +5 for Occidente seems really high.

OK, beyond that this is a nice start. Have some fun with the graphics - mas sabor Mexicano!
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Version 4

Postby fumandomuerte on Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:04 am

VERSION 4 Updated 28/Feb/08
SMALL 600x391
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LARGE 800x521
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35 Territories
9 Continents (2 sub)
-Adjusted the bonuses.
-Added a mini-map showing bonuses.
-Renamed some terits:
EM > Edo. Mex.
México > DF
SL > San Luis
NL > Nuevo León
QR > Quintana Roo
-Didn't put a port on Veracruz because the Gulf continent has already a port. I know that Veracruz is the most important port of México, but this omittion is thinking on the gameplay.
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Postby FreeMan10 on Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:18 am

I haven't measured, but these maps both look too wide. Has anyone checked this?
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Postby fumandomuerte on Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:23 am

Right click the images and choose properties, you'll see both images are on the limits (600px for the small and 800px for the large).
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Postby FreeMan10 on Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:42 am

Awesome! Thanks for the info.

Maybe they look wide because they're not that tall... Not that that's a bad thing.
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Postby Ogrecrusher on Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:45 am

Maybe it's just me, but the text on the Sur continent on the small map looks like something has gone wrong, like half the pixels are missing. It's fine on the large map though.
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Postby FreeMan10 on Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:08 am

BTW- I just learned some geometry. I didn't know that Quintana Roo was in Mexico. I always thought it was in Australia or New Zealand. :oops:
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Postby Ogrecrusher on Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:10 am

FreeMan10 wrote:BTW- I just learned some geometry. I didn't know that Quintana Roo was in Mexico. I always thought it was in Australia or New Zealand. :oops:


I hope you mean Geography ;)
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Postby FreeMan10 on Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:23 pm

Yeah, I was never very good at that, either... :?
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Postby tenio on Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:57 pm

look good now

on the big map, in the legend

there is a space between

Gu and lf
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Postby Ninjai Jr on Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:28 am

it looks at first glance that "+5 seaports" are auto deploy but after looking at it for a min i see you mean +5 to hold all ports
im not sure how to address it but pointing it out

put more space between the "|" between the gulf and pacific bonus

just my thoughts as i see this map really coming together since v1
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Re: feedback

Postby iancanton on Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:36 pm

i think the original bonus of 6 is suitable for anillo central; the new one of only 5 is too small. anillo central is very similar to iberia's castilla la mancha continent which, just like anillo central, has 7 territories, of which 5 are border territories; also like anillo central, it is located in the middle, so that nearly every continent can attack it directly. castilla la mancha has a bonus of 7.

http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/Iberia.S.jpg

in the anillo central box, the name for veracruz is diagonal. all other names on the map are straight left to right. it'll look better if veracruz also reads straight across from left to right.

i'm liking this map a lot. would some texture improve the look of the land, or would texture make the map less clear?

ian. :)
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Postby KingPrime on Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:46 pm

the borders between Noroeste and Norte need a bit of a darker colour.
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Re: feedback

Postby fumandomuerte on Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:32 am

iancanton wrote:1. I think the original bonus of 6 is suitable for anillo central; the new one of only 5 is too small.
2. In the anillo central box, the name for veracruz is diagonal. all other names on the map are straight left to right. it'll look better if veracruz also reads straight across from left to right.
3. Would some texture improve the look of the land, or would texture make the map less clear?

1. I feel the same.
2. I guess you're right, I must keep the desinging scheme.
3. Let me try some experiments.

KingPrime wrote:the borders between Noroeste and Norte need a bit of a darker colour.

OK, that will be changed next version.

Thanks for the suggestions to everyone.
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VERSION 5

Postby fumandomuerte on Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:50 am

VERSION 5
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30 Terits
5 Seaports
7 Continents
2 Sub continents
-Changed the bonus for the Anillo Central region from 5 to 6.
-Translated the sea names to the spanish form.
-Added some texture to the land.
-A little touch-up to some graphic elements like the terits names.
-The neutrals are shown (ports).

Is the gameplay OK or should I make a major change?
Have fun and keep coming to the map foundry, Vladi (fumandomuerte).
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Postby Ogrecrusher on Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:30 am

Been waiting for this update! It looks amazing! Love the textures. Having looked for 5 minutes, I honestly can't see anything that needs changing.
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Postby whitestazn88 on Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:42 pm

it looks very goood, but i think theres too much red

make it 2 green areas, 2 white areas and 2 red areas, i don't like the pink at all
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Postby edbeard on Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:09 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:it looks very goood, but i think theres too much red

make it 2 green areas, 2 white areas and 2 red areas, i don't like the pink at all


if you look at the mexican flag, the colour scheme used on the map makes perfect sense.

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as for the map itself, I have no complaints.
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Postby Gozar on Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:19 pm

I think it should read:

"Ports don't form part of any continent."

Anyone care to confirm my grammar?
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Postby fumandomuerte on Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:39 pm

edbeard wrote:
whitestazn88 wrote:it looks very goood, but i think theres too much red
make it 2 green areas, 2 white areas and 2 red areas, i don't like the pink at all

if you look at the mexican flag, the colour scheme used on the map makes perfect sense.
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as for the map itself, I have no complaints.

Neither Do I 8) . I Think the size of Noroeste is almost the area of all the red-ish regions, that makes some balance with the flag colors.
Gozar wrote:I think it should read:
"Ports don't form part of any continent."
Anyone care to confirm my grammar?

You are so damn right :shock: .
Let me change it right now.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:11 pm

You could also say: "Ports aren't a part of any..."


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